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Java 8 OCA as a subset of Java 11 1ZO-815?

 
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Hi, planning to embark on a journey of getting OCP Java 11 certificate.

Can someone tell me which topics and to which extent are in OCP 815 exam and are not stated as learning objectives as OCP 815, but are thoroughly discussed in OCA exam?

Essentialy what is considered: "one must understand this, this and that topic" from OCA exam, because we won't teach you those topics in 1Z0-815 book.
 
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Mike,
The 815 exam no longer exists. It was merged with the 816 exam and now called the 819.

There are books referencing the 815 like mine. (Which is now the first half of what you need to read for the 819.) They don't assume you know the OCA material as a pre-req so I would say none. They do assume you've at least learned basic Java though. If you've never seen Java before, I cert book will be too fast paced
 
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Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:Mike,
The 815 exam no longer exists. It was merged with the 816 exam and now called the 819.



Hi Jeanne Yeah, I  was aware of the fact. I expressed myself wrongly, sorry  about that Wanted to ask whether your and Scott's book (the one for OCA) containes some topic which are not discribed in book (your and Scott's book) for first half of 819 exam?

So is it enough to take books for 815 and 816 exams and start directly from there?  Or I have to go from book which was meant for OCA exam (cannot remember the code of the exam)?

Regarding my experience with Java. I am 3rd year student (out of 4) information technology, focus is on web technologies. Had Java in 3 semesters: algorithms,  OOP 1, OOP 2.

It is "ungrateful" to ask, but maybe you can give me a piece of advice, is this level of experience with Java enough to embark on journey like OCP 11 exam? (I get that is so very individual)

All the best!
 
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See the table in this post. It tells you what you can skip in the 815/816 books and the one thing you need to add (as a blog post.)

You do not need to read any OCA material. The 815 book includes everything that was on the OCA that you need to know.

And yes, you know enough to read the books and pass the exams (with studying.)
 
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Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:Mike,
See the table in this post. It tells you what you can skip in the 815/816 books and the one thing you need to add (as a blog post.)

You do not need to read any OCA material. The 815 book includes everything that was on the OCA that you need to know.

And yes, you know enough to read the books and pass the exams (with studying.)



Jeanne you post said Callable statement is not in the exam but I got a question on Callable Statement in my OCP Java 11 - 819 Exam.

Please read below the feedback on my OCP Java SE Developer 819 exam....

https://coderanch.com/t/738093/certification/Feedback

 
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Amir,
I'm aware. There are unscored questions on the exam that can cover out of scope questions. Oracle uses it to do research. We confirmed with Oracle that Callable Statement is out of scope.
 
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Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:. . . you know enough to read the books and pass the exams (with studying.)

. . . but most people need several months of preparation for the OCAJP; I am worried that this will interfere with and detract from your degree work. Consider delaying the exam until you have a job, and getting your employer to pay the exam fee
What are you planning to do with web work? Are you going to design the interface between your website and the backing database on the company's cloud or servers? If so, that sort of code often uses lots of Java®.
 
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Thank you Campbell for your replay. Your inputs are valuable

. . . but most people need several months of preparation for the OCAJP


While having full time job or studying?

I am worried that this will interfere with and detract from your degree work. Consider delaying the exam until you have a job, and getting your employer to pay the exam fee  


It will definitely interfere, I'm also willing to prolong my studies one year (whaaat? it is okay to be a student one year longer, we're supposed to work till 65 ) Would like to complete my studies with OCP under my belt.
Most of the companies from my country are not willing to pay for this, or they mighty say: "We'll reimburse you.."

What are you planning to do with web work? Are you going to design the interface between your website and the backing database on the company's cloud or servers? If so, that sort of code often uses lots of Java®


At the moment I'm doing an internship, what I do is basically, writing services (Spring) for web and mobile, storing and pulling data from database, implementing new features, little bit of devops etc

My problem is that I cannot give any kind of estimation on how much time roughly I'll need for this bite to take...To be clear, if I decide to go on this path, I'll be just studying for this exam (so 7-9h a day only for studying this exam). School courses will have to wait. (who gives a damn for CMD Build or Bonita software etc..) Last week or so, I'm was going thorough the book, all those stuff is familiar to me and I did the mock exam had like 10% (that's without preparation what so ever)

Cannot say exactly, but my very rough estimate is that I'll need 7-8 months. I'm a bit of slow learner tho Maybe you know from other peoples experiences? My apologies if this topic diverged a bit.

 
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Mike Gosling wrote:Thank you . . .

That's a pleasure

. . . it is okay to be a student one year longer, we're supposed to work till 65 . . .

Go to Germany; they used to have University courses of indeterminate length. Of course you can have an extra year, as long as you are doing something useful.

they mighty say: "We'll reimburse you.."

That is the same as paying for the exam.

. . . . writing services (Spring) for web and mobile, storing and pulling data from database, implementing new features, little bit of devops etc . . .

Sounds good stuff

I did the mock exam had like 10% . . . .

Don't waste your time sitting mock exams before revising; wait until you think you will get 70%+ in the mocks.
 
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Hi Mike,
    In the past few months I have started a YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC47bUeEug64OqfM42EBVPRA) to help people prepare for the Java Certification exams. I use the excellent Enthuware tool to explain the concepts. In fact Enthuware now link to my explanations. I have 808 and 809 playlists (150+ videos) and am posting daily. 819 playlist starting soon. If there are areas you would like videos on that are not there, let me know.

HTH,
Seán.
 
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Hi sir,

I've wrote to you at javacertsk@gmail.com.
 
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