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Websphere Standard Edition or Websphere Network Deployment ?Urgent

 
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hi all
We are already using WSAD for development.
Please let me know whether we should buy IBM websphere Application Server Network deployment OR we should go for Websphere Application Server Standard Edition for J2EE.
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Hello Vikasids,
That depends on whether you need to run on more than one box. Have you given that any thought? Are we talking production, and do you have the money to spend?
 
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Hello Howard,
Carrying on from your discussion...
we currently have a 2 node WebSphere cluster running version 4.0.5
If we were to upgrade to WAS 5, would that mean a lot of change in terms
of infrastructure/costs?
I am trying to thumb through the migration guide... but when I saw this post.. I thought I will get a bit cheeky and ask !!!
 
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I think Websphere 5.0 has a very good migration strategy compard to other versions. But as far as nfrastructure is concerned, you will end up having whatever "servers" needed for this migration to be completed.
 
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JUmping the gun a bit here... and deviating slightly from the original question... currently the clones are managed between the two machines.. that are parts of the cluster... and when we need to do deployments, we deploy to one and EAR Expand on the other.
In was 5.0, would this still be the case?
Would we need the 'Network deployment Manager'? Would this be needed on a separate machine? God..I am definitely confused now!
 
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Hello
Yes now you manage all those things with so called Deployment Manager or cell manager. Just recollect this
Deployment Manager -> Node Agent -> Server
You will be able to install your app from deployment manager machine and it will take care of installing in all the node associated with the same.
You can install it on the same machine as your base app server or a separate machine. But it is recommended that for qa, staging and production try to deploy it in separate machine.
 
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Money is not the problem...but the thing is usage..
No doubt we are developing application on WSAD version 5.But for a urge to buy websphere is just for testing application on complete Business oriented Envionment before it is handed over to client. So wot u say for options i have asked in earlier thread?
Thanks
I dont know when everybody has got a rite to put question...why they changed question itself

Originally posted by Howard Kushner:
Hello Vikasids,
That depends on whether you need to run on more than one box. Have you given that any thought? Are we talking production, and do you have the money to spend?

 
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vikasids...
i can imagine ur ire at this post.. apologies.. i shall open a new thread...
cheers.
 
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Hello again Vikasids,
Please believe it is not my intent to make any insulting remark. If that is your perceiption, then please accept my most humble apologies.
Now I believe I have a better understanding... so I will restate to make sure. I believe the context of your question is with regard to a testing environment that is outside of the unit test/development environment. If that is the case then ND is overkill. On the other hand, if you intend to come closer to a "real world" environment with clustering and fail-over capabilities, and running on multiple boxes, then ND makes sense. I sincerely hope that the information I am able to share is of some help to you. If I can be of further help, it will indeed by my pleasure.
Best Regards,
 
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Thanks Howard..
No doubt our issue is just to test application after developing it on WSAD 5. but Howard if we dont go for ND , we are left with two options
1 Enterprise Edition(which is twice the price of ND and also seems an overKill as per our requirement)
2 Standard Edition which is avialable till 30 NOV 2003(so i dont find any reason for investing on it)
Please let me know what do u say about my view as well as the best product as per our requirement?
Thanks and Regards
Vikas

Originally posted by Howard Kushner:
Hello again Vikasids,
I believe the context of your question is with regard to a testing environment that is outside of the unit test/development environment. If that is the case then ND is overkill. On the other hand, if you intend to come closer to a "real world" environment with clustering and fail-over capabilities, and running on multiple boxes, then ND makes sense.

 
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Hello Vikasids,
I was not aware that the version 5 base product would not be available after the end of this month. How did you come to find out this information? I would certainly not go with EE unless the feature are important to you, and it still seems to me that ND is overkill. Please post again, and I'll check with some of my friends in IBM. I truly want to help you here!
Regards,
 
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hi
howard
These are few lines i picked up from a site...
http://www.midrangeserver.com/tfh/tfh052002-story05.html
Well i m looking for site where Nov 03 was clearly mentioned as final date.
will let u know..soon
"So WebSphere Express will become the replacement product for the free WebSphere Application Server Version 3.5, Standard Edition, which IBM is phasing out on June 30, 2003. IBM was planning to phase out Version 3.5 of the Standard Edition on December 31, 2002, but, because of customer requests, IBM's Software Group extended technical support through mid-2003 to give customers time to migrate to a newer version of WebSphere"

Originally posted by Howard Kushner:

I was not aware that the version 5 base product would not be available after the end of this month. How did you come to find out this information? I would certainly not go with EE unless the feature are important to you, and it still seems to me that ND is overkill. Please post again, and I'll check with some of my friends in IBM. I truly want to help you here!
Regards,

 
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Please note that this is version 3.5 and NOT version 5.0. We're not phasing out WebSphere base version 5.0 anytime soon...
Kyle
 
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Thanks for the information Kelya...
Thanks to Howard for guidence...
Finally we are opting for ND
 
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