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Houssam El wrote:. . . I fixed now

Kindly don't change a post after such a reply; I am reverting the changes.
 
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Kindly don't change a post after such a reply; I am reverting the changes.



is this a new policy?
 
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Houssam El wrote:

Kindly don't change a post after such a reply; I am reverting the changes.



is this a new policy?

No.  Trivial fixes of spelling or grammar that don't affect the meaning of the content can be squeezed in if you missed something on your last "Preview" before "Submit".

The threads in the forum are useful not just to the Original Poster, but to Posterity, we have a legacy to think about here.

When you say "final variables are always vegetarian" and then I write a long reply explaining why they very often aren't vegan, and in the following cases are not even vegetarian -- so you go back and remove the line that said "final variables are always vegetarian", it confuses everyone participating in the thread as well as those reading it later.

So like in Time Travel fantasy/fiction stories, you are permitted to go back in time, but you need to be extremely careful not to change the timeline, or you will never be born in the first place and immediately cease to exist.

I mean, you would confuse the other responders as well as everyone reading the thread in the future, who would appear to be reacting to things you never said.

A draconian implementation of the policy with the same intent would prevent you from fixing an embarrrrasing typo nobody noticed or commented on.  If moderators need to revert too many instances of changes to post that materially change the timeline and threaten the existence of the Universe, I mean, confuse all the posters and future readers, that could happen.  I would shudder at that, because I often go back and change stoopid embarasssing typos, but never ones that would affect anyone but the Spelling and Grammar Police.
 
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I've read the text that you've written above, it doesn't contain an unambiguous idea, even an unambiguous idea that is characterized by many interpretations, your text doesn't contain it, in other words, it's a sort of sophistry,
 
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Yikes.

Much briefer, less ambiguous:

It is not a new policy.

It may occasionally appear to be applied inconsistently, but hopefully it is not.

If I now went back at this point and edited my post to say just what is in this one, your reply would then become confusing to all those who read the thread going forward.

So I should not do that.

Of course, I wrote it as I did to illustrate that point.  Or it just worked out that way.
 
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Jesse with all respects, you've implicitly sent or written many false ideas, how the grammar doesn't affect the meaning of the content? have you known why many famous writers invented "figure de styles" (in French)? in addition, Users may alter the content to update the solution or to render the solution goes with the new web technologies, all those stuff you would take it in consideration, de-facto, all of us susceptible to commit mistakes, that's why the first inventor of this script that your website has been using for many years add a feature to alter the content , moreover,

 
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All that you've written above is a sort of sophistry, you want to deceive me that the grammar doesn't affect the meaning of the content, I won't go deeper than that, anyway Thanks
 
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The single most common thing for me to go back and edit is someplace where I wrote some word as singular when it meant to be plural, or as plural when it should have been singular.
I will sometimes correct capitalization.  We could call those typos or "spelling and grammar", it was to such small errors that I was referring.

If nobody has replied yet, and I realize I forgot something important, I might sometimes add what I forgot.

Occasionally I say something that is actually quite wrong, people notice it, and correct the errors in what I said.
Not always so occasionally!  I never try to go back and change the things that replies have pointed out, because that would render the whole thread confusing to everyone.

When I get a chance I will look up "figure de styles".

When my understanding of something I have commented on changes, either the facts of the matter or what the poster was trying to get at, I will follow up with a new post in the thread.

I have done that even today.  I tend to do that even if I don't know for sure anybody read it in between.
 
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Houssam El, here's an unambiguous idea: Moderators are free to revert changes as they see fit. This is not a new policy, and it's also not up for debate.

Here's a simple guideline that might help you determine when a moderator will revert your changes: If your edit changes the meaning of your post, and somebody else has already replied to your post, it's very likely that a moderator will revert your changes.

 
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If we could not edit anything then you'd swiftly discover that I'm even more incoherent than I seem, since between hitting the wrong keys and sometimes spell-checkers being over-helpful and my practice of starting to say something one way, backing up, and incompletely erasing what I said when typing something I hope will be more clear I'd be outright uninteligible.

On the other hand, we don't want a 1984-style "memory hole" operation here. There's too much of that in real life at the moment. But regardless, a conversation based on code and concepts that have been overlaid is, as others have noted, cn be quite confusing.

We don't think less of people who "don't get it right the first time". Nobody here, we hope is so invested in their original idea that their only choices are to ride the train over the cliff or scrub everything out and pretend it never happened. Indeed, seeing the evolution of a topic is in itself an education. So rather than treat the forums like a whiteboard and erasers, think of us more like an old-time Teletype printout on a paper roll. We used to play "Star Trek" that way. Each new Star date we printed an updated map.
 
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To be clear, I fear that Houssam might have felt that I thought the situation was funny because I don't value his contributions here highly.

On the contrary, I found the situation funny precisely because when I was first posting here I got a number of edits reversed, and slowly learned exactly what conditions would trigger that.

It took a while for me to get the why behind why and when some trivial edits seemed to be okay and others were not.

Suffice it to say that even if the policy were up for a vote (which it is not) knowing what I now know I would not vote to change the policy.

I have been very confused reading threads in other places, where between Deletions and Edits I saw apparently reasonable people seemingly fighting Straw Man arguments, correcting points that were already correct as far as I could tell, and other things that would be deemed "Continuity Errors" in a script.

This doesn't happen to me here.  I only get confused if I don't know enough about the topic at hand yet to follow it properly.

I would abide by the policy anyway if I didn't agree with it, but strongly welcome it now that I understand it better.

Lastly, when reading related threads before posting a new one that might be redundant, I find it pleasant and satisfying to so often see both the OP and the responders learning things from each other as the thread plays out.  I see at least one like that pretty much daily, and makes me happy to be any part of the Ranch.

EDIT -- I somehow dropped the word WITH in 'if I didn't agree with it', and somehow managed to miss that during my [Preview] step.  I like to think 99% of my edits fall in this category.
 
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Jesse Silverman wrote:EDIT -- I somehow dropped the word WITH in 'if I didn't agree with it', and somehow managed to miss that during my [Preview] step.


Well, now you've done it.  The TVA will be along to take care of this shortly.
 
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Mike Simmons wrote:
Well, now you've done it.  The TVA will be along to take care of this shortly.



No spoilers for those who haven't watched Loki yet, but yeah, it was quite the season.
Heavens knows what they got themselves into at the end!
 
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