Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
Part of the problem with that is US management is reluctant to hire and train freshers. Sometimes, a fresher can write just as good code as a person with 4-5 years experience. Example; it doesnt take experience to write a function that adds numbers. This is one of the basics that any college graduate would learn.
Instead US management believes in this false notion that experience can deliver superior results. True to a certain extent.. but not always. I have worked with some brilliant freshers and some duffer veterans to realize that experience doesnt always count.
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Originally posted by Jesse Torres:
How much is the average pay of an average programmer in India w/ 3 yrs of experience? Do most in India work in permanent positions, or do some work as contractors as well?
Thanks,
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The big product ideas still originate in the US and the big Computer Science ideas seem to start in Europe.
Huh? That isn't my impression - could you clarify?
Mike Gershman
SCJP 1.4, SCWCD in process
Originally posted by Warren Dew:
Given that China is physically closer to Europe as well
Originally posted by Jesse Torres:
Gary is only 30 miles from Chicago.... It looks similar to a scene from the British movie, 13 Days Later.
Originally posted by Joe King:
Does that include the blood sucking zombies?
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Originally posted by Jesse Torres:
How much is the average pay of an average programmer in India w/ 3 yrs of experience? Do most in India work in permanent positions, or do some work as contractors as well?
Thanks,
[ September 27, 2004: Message edited by: Jesse Torres ]
Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:
1/12 th of US salary.
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Originally posted by Jesse Torres:
I heard a report on T.V not too long ago that claims that the average pay of a top notch Indian programmer is $20,000 = 916,600 INR
That seems more than 1/12 of a US salary.
Nevertheless, if it is 1/12, does 1/12 go a long way in India? In other words, can an Indian programmer (earning 1/12 of the US Salary), live a comfortable life?
Thanks,
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Originally posted by Jesse Torres:
Since many now in India have spending power, is the cost of living rising? Is it rising rapidly, slowly, or not at all? I guess, the report that I mentioned earlier, meant top notch by someone who is well versed in his / her profession, with at least 3 years of experience. I am just speculating, since the report was rather vague on the precise meaning of "top notch."
Thanks,
MH
Originally posted by Arjun Shastry:
In these 'many', programmers or people in IT in general may be 0.01% or even less.IMO growth rate is between slow and rapid.
3 years exp. programmer,may be $8500 to 10000$ per year.This is very vague observation and depends on various factors like region/company etc.
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Originally posted by peter wooster:
What does a nice 3br family house (not a highrise flat) cost in Bangalore? I've heard some almost North American numbers such as 50 to 75 lakh, are these typical or the high end?
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Originally posted by Jesse Torres:
What is lakh?
Thanks,
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Originally posted by Kripal Singh:
Lakh is Indian equivalent of 100,000. So 10 lakh equals 1 million.
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Originally posted by Jesse Torres:
Is a Lakh = 100,000 INR or 100,000 US$?
Originally posted by peter wooster:
100,000 INR or about $2000 US.
So 80 lakh is $160,000 US. Here's what that buys in suburban Syracuse NY. USA.
How does this compare to what 80 lakh buys in Bangalore?
MH
Originally posted by Jesse Torres:
Is a Lakh = 100,000 INR or 100,000 US$?
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Originally posted by Jesse Torres:
I heard a report on T.V not too long ago that claims that the average pay of a top notch Indian programmer is $20,000 = 916,600 INR
That seems more than 1/12 of a US salary.
Nevertheless, if it is 1/12, does 1/12 go a long way in India? In other words, can an Indian programmer (earning 1/12 of the US Salary), live a comfortable life?
Thanks,
[ October 01, 2004: Message edited by: Jesse Torres ]
Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:
20,000 $ , you must be joking. How many years of experince are you taking about. Everyone is software guy in Bangalore.
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Originally posted by Jesse Torres:
Do you mean that 20K US is not enough or too much?
Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:
MY opinion - Few years back software engineer could have had comfortable life. Now only "rich" software guys can lead comfortable life![]()
Software guys who have worked in US can afford many luxuries.
Could you tell me 20k$ was salary of how many expierenced guy? :roll:
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Originally posted by Mike Gershman:
We have to consider an Indian programmer living an Indian upper-middle class lifestyle, not an American lifestyle. Based on the posts on this BB, $20K is more than enough.
I wonder what happens when an Indian programmer brings his family back to India after a few years in the US. Do they try to recreate Boston in Bangalore? Is that even possible on $20K?
As for a rapid rise in Indian salaries, there are plenty of other countries with bright young people who can learn j2ee and English just fine. That will put a long-term salary cap on all but the genuine experts. The danger would be a short-term rise in salaries fueled by lots of job-hopping (as with the US Internet bubble) while the other countries come up to speed. Once you get used big money, it's hard to adjust to less.
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MH
Originally posted by Warren Dew:
And here's what it will buy in Cambridge, MA:
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Originally posted by Jesse Torres:
What is the current state of the IT employment market in Europe? Is it similar to America?
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Originally posted by Tim Holloway:
Why you can't just scale linearly (correct me if I'm wrong)
Decent J2EE development computer (new) YMMV
India: 32,000INR
US: $800
Are they really paying programmers $20K now? Or is it just manager.
MH
Originally posted by shashank joshi:
And all of us offshore are well aware of some overbearing onsiters mostly Indians settled there.
I have to add that as a generalisation American onsiters are much very reasonable and clear on technology. Most know what OO is all know how to use OO in projects.
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Originally posted by Hu Jiabao:
People should must take control of themselves as theyare part of globalazation
Originally posted by Axel Janssen:
A lot of us live in a more insecure environment than our parents.
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