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Originally posted by Alvin chew:
what database will be introduced as example in this book ?



Hi,

We don't talk about a particular database; we just mention the usual suspects as examples.

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Hi,

Now there's a trend of using lightweight container such as Springframework instead of the heavyweight container of J2EE Application Server. In fact, the j2ee applicationa work quite well with Spring framework. So did you mention something about it in your book?

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Originally posted by Tu Le Quang:
Hi,

Now there's a trend of using lightweight container such as Springframework instead of the heavyweight container of J2EE Application Server. In fact, the j2ee applicationa work quite well with Spring framework. So did you mention something about it in your book?

Thanks



Hi,

No, we don't talk about using a lightweight container; it's more the core concepts of J2EE.

It's a roughly 320 page book, so as to not be intimidating. We kept it to the essentials.

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What is the essence of J2EE?

What are the main concepts, components, methodologies, languages, etc?

Obviously Java is one, but surely there are others.

Would someone be kind enough to induldge my newbie questions?
 
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Hi Solveig,
just went thru book's TOC, i have two ques:
a)the book has around 320 pages .dont u think that's too less considering the j2ee which is huge.
b)what's Chapter 7: Does a Cup of J2EE in the Morning Always Smell Like Victory? all about.[B]
[ July 22, 2004: Message edited by: Ankur Jain ]
 
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Originally posted by Ankur Jain:
[QB]Hi Solveig,
just went thru book's TOC, i have two ques:
a)the book has around 320 pages .dont u think that's too less considering the j2ee which is huge.
b)what's Chapter 7: Does a Cup of J2EE in the Morning Always Smell Like Victory? all about.[B]
QB]



Hi Ankur,

I think the book is just about the right size, since it's the Big Picture. Not Big in the sense of covering a lot of stuff but big in the sense that the phrase "big picture" means the gist, the point, the overall scheme of things. One also doesn't want to intimidate the primary target audience, which is not composed of programmers.

Chapter 7 is about considerations. Do you need to be all or nothing J2EE, or can you just do some JSPs? Are entity beans and stateful session beans evil? That kind of thing. We don't make specific recommendations but we do clarify that it's a judgment call based on a lot of factors.

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Originally posted by Ray Marsh:
What is the essence of J2EE?

What are the main concepts, components, methodologies, languages, etc?

Obviously Java is one, but surely there are others.

Would someone be kind enough to induldge my newbie questions?



Hi,

Well, I could tell you all that, but it would take about 320 pages. ;> Or more, if you want to bring in methodologies.

J2EE is a way to solve the problems that come with having great big and/or distributed systems.

Beyond that, I'm going to just weasel out and say that's a big question to answer just in this forum. There are resources out there that cover it, and my favorite ;> is my "J2EE: The Big Picture" book.

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And occasional references to badgers.

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Hi,
I am a bit confused about j2ee/EJB transactions.I can say,I'm little weeker in that area.does this book covers J2EE transactions,because the transaction management is the heart of the J2EE application.
 
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Originally posted by venkat kondarapu:
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I am a bit confused about j2ee/EJB transactions.I can say,I'm little weeker in that area.does this book covers J2EE transactions,because the transaction management is the heart of the J2EE application.



Hi,

Yes, there's a chapter on transactions that explains the concept generally, though not a lot of detail about what J2EE does, per se. It's not really detailed, though, so if you want to know anything about writing code, you'll need to check out Head First EJBs or another book.

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see my post please:

https://coderanch.com/t/314526/EJB-JEE/java/Persistence-frameworks-Who-needs-them
 
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Originally posted by Solveig Laura Haugland:

Beyond that, I'm going to just weasel out and say that's a big question to answer just in this forum. There are resources out there that cover it, and my favorite ;> is my "J2EE: The Big Picture" book.



Thank you, Solveig.

From a very high level, that's what I thought it was. I will consider getting a copy of that book.
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hi, solveig , on chapter 18 - internationalization , can your briefly explain what is it about ?
 
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hi, solvieg , what do you means by "Je Ne Sais Quoi" ?
 
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I'm new to Java and J2SE. Will "J2EE 1.4: The Big Picture" help me learn more about Java as well?
 
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Originally posted by Solveig Laura Haugland:


Hi Jeremy,

About .5% of the book is sample code. So you'd want a more detailed book about doing, rather than understanding. I define SSL but that's all.

On the other hand, it's got a really cute cover. The real cover isn't on Amazon yet. http://www.bigpicture-books.com/coverbig.jpg Lots of J2EE puns.

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Hi, I really like the cover. Congrats. About the book, maybe it�s all my employee need to know about J2EE.
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I'm new to Java and J2SE. Will "J2EE 1.4: The Big Picture" help me learn more about Java as well?



hi, james, you should have a look on the table of contents, but what i understand is this book is for j2EE ...and assume you know basic knowledge on java ...if not, the title of book should change to "J2SE 1.4 : big picture"
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Post again : Table of Content of this book.

http://www.bigpicture-books.com/bigpicturetoc.pdf
 
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The table of contents is very helpful. Thank you.

Is this book simple enough for someone unfamiliar with J2EE to benefit from it?

Of course assuming a basic knowledge of application development in General and Java in particular.
 
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Originally posted by William Duncan:
see my post please:

https://coderanch.com/t/314526/EJB-JEE/java/Persistence-frameworks-Who-needs-them



Hi,

I'm going to let Mark take a look at this. We do cover, in the book, reasons people have avoided EJBs, and used them.

Solveig


>>There has been, over the last year or two, a major push away from using EJBs. In fact the last two companies I have worked for has allowed EJB development only when absolutely needed (e.g. remote reusable objects). I went to the "No Fluff, Just Stuff" software conference last year and was amazed at the negativity directed at using EJBs. Not just from the attendees but also from the lecturers. For a while, I just thought Bruce Tate was trying to spread a virus or promote his 'Bitter EJB' book but fact of the matter is, the general theme of the conference seemed to be that 'anything you can do with EJBs you can do without them as well'.

Question is, from a scalability and performance standpoint, at what point does JDBC become insufficient? Honestly, I have never seen a case where JDBC has not done the job. Also, if I come to a point where JDBC becomes unmanageable, unscalable, unacceptable, or whatever, should I use EJBs or JDO? What are the benefits of using one over the other?
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Originally posted by Ray Marsh:
The table of contents is very helpful. Thank you.

Is this book simple enough for someone unfamiliar with J2EE to benefit from it?

Of course assuming a basic knowledge of application development in General and Java in particular.



Hi,

You should be familiar with computers and maybe a little beyond that, but that's about it. We tried very hard to make it not just accessible to people without any J2EE background but specifically wrote it in a non intimidating factor.

There are "If you really want to know" geek notes through, on topics like how changes in garbage collection make the idea of bean pooling kind of seem unnecessary now, but they aren't part of the main drag.

Solveig
 
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Originally posted by Solveig Laura Haugland:


Not really. This book is about taking people from confused and overwhelmed to "oh, is that all there is to it?" What you get is either just the ability to grok, and that's all some people need. If you need to do J2EE, it gives you the grokking capacity you need to move on to learning to do stuff with J2EE.

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Solveig,

You seem pretty clever and witty as well. From what I have hear, you are also pretty cute. My question: Are you seeing anyone right now?
 
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Originally posted by Judd:


Solveig,

You seem pretty clever and witty as well. From what I have hear, you are also pretty cute. My question: Are you seeing anyone right now?



MODERATORS!!! What the HECK is going on here. Here I am, trying to run a clean, serious book discussion, and instead I get riffraff asking me personal questions.

If you must know, I'm "seeing" this Texan lummox but he's a handful with serious attitude.

I think anyone posting this kind of question just needs to go buy himself the darn book, right now.

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I'm new to Java and J2SE. Will "J2EE 1.4: The Big Picture" help me learn more about Java as well?



Hi James,

There's about 20-20 pages on Java and object orientation in the appendix. I think you should buy the book just for that. ;> Now, that's just my opinion, so that it as you will.

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Originally posted by Alvin chew:
hi, solveig , on chapter 18 - internationalization , can your briefly explain what is it about ?




Hi,

Sure. The Internationalization chapter covers the classes you get in J2EE that help you out: ResourceBundle, Properties, Locale, java.text package, InputStreamReader and OutputStreamWriter classes. And it talks about Unicode.

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Originally posted by Alvin chew:
hi, solvieg , what do you means by "Je Ne Sais Quoi" ?



Hi,

"That certain 'je ne sais quoi'" means "that certain I don't know what" but it kind of means that Special Something that sets something apart. Which isn't really the point of the chapter but it's funny to use a French phrase in an internationalization chapter.

It's all about going for the joke! ;> Well, not entirely. 55% or so being clear about J2EE, 20% being nonintimidating and funny, 25% fun quotes from Buffy and Steve Martin and other sources.

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What do you recommend as the next book, after someone finishes reading your book?

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Originally posted by John Zukowski:
What do you recommend as the next book, after someone finishes reading your book?

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If you want to write that J2EE code, then either Head First EJBs or Head First Webby Things (not the exact title but that's the gist).

If you want to head in more of an architectural direction then I'm not sure; I'll buzz Mark to give an answer.

Aside from that, I always recommend "Confederacy of Dunces" as one of my favorite works of fiction, and for the nonfiction crowd, I give thumbs up to all the Oliver Sacks stuff about neurology. ;>

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sorry i posted a new thread instead on putting my reply here sorry guys..

hi,

I have been seeing new J2EE books coming in and out of the markets dialy.. is this another addon ?? i would like to read a book which take me from the very basics to the very advanced.. can i find it here ?? its been a while i have worked on EJB, i am working an architecture similar to EJB but its not EJB can i imporve my EJB skills if i go and get ur book ?? wat is new in it which is not in others ???

Thanks,
Rajeev
 
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Hi Rajeev,

I think that such a book would come with two burly guys to help you carry it around. I.e. it would be Too Big.

I'll see if Mark or someone else can answer the other questions.

Solveig


Originally posted by r rajeev:
sorry i posted a new thread instead on putting my reply here sorry guys..

hi,

I have been seeing new J2EE books coming in and out of the markets dialy.. is this another addon ?? i would like to read a book which take me from the very basics to the very advanced.. can i find it here ?? its been a while i have worked on EJB, i am working an architecture similar to EJB but its not EJB can i imporve my EJB skills if i go and get ur book ?? wat is new in it which is not in others ???

Thanks,
Rajeev

 
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hi, solveig, i'm from asia country (malaysia), i shopping around the bookstore, but i didn't see this book around, when will asia country start selling this book ?
 
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Originally posted by Alvin chew:
hi, solveig, i'm from asia country (malaysia), i shopping around the bookstore, but i didn't see this book around, when will asia country start selling this book ?



Hi Alvin,

Not sure...I'll ask my editor Monday and post here. Borders in the US doesn't necessarily even have it in stock yet. They're way behind Amazon.

Solveig
 
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Alvin, you might like to take a look at the book promotion winners thread.
 
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Thank you for indulging my questions and shameless attempts to win a free copy of your book.

I am interested in the subject and do intend to purchase a copy.

Thanks again.
 
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