Somebody here should stop acting as a policeman

[Thomas Paul]

Originally posted by Cindy Glass:
I think Jacob owes Thomas an apology also. Multiple times he was strongly accused of something that he did NOT do.

Jacob can keep his apology. I don't want one from him.

[Anonymous]

Jacob,
You should have checked why McDonald's is being suied instead of who is suing.

[Sahir Shibley]

Originally posted by Dave Vick:

First off the right to sue someone for some perceived wrong is a right given in this country, I would think that not using it or trying to stop someone from exercising it would be a better case of an attack on your way of life.

An excellent point. Now if y'all will not consider this an attempt to hijack this thread, I have a complaint to make. When I am my usual mild and inoffensive self, everyone gets their jollies by insulting me. Someone even called me a frog!!! But when I post a rude and offensive message people send me mail saying "that was a good thing you did Sahir". I will never understand you guys.
[This message has been edited by Sahir Shibley (edited August 21, 2001).]

[Thomas Paul]

A frog? I thought that was a French person!

[Nathan Pruett]

If I had seen the original post, I would have deleted it too...

Dead trolls make such good mulch when mixed with the manure from the cows in the Rules Roundup game. With so many recently, I am sure the ranch will have a bumper crop...

-Nate

[Anonymous]

It would be kind of funny to stop posting to this thread and just let the bigots take it from here.

[Anonymous]

Jacob Golden,

In reaction to your post an innocent monkey that was making a good living as a programmer in India has been fired. He has been put on the secret programmer black-list, and thus will never be hired as a programmer again. Now he must scour the streets for garbage to feed himself and his monkey family. Please, I beg of you, think about this before posting again.

-The Monkey Master

[Mapraputa Is]

Originally posted by Sahir Shibley:
When I am my usual mild and inoffensive self, everyone gets their jollies by insulting me.

Sahir, it's the back side of popularity...

[Cindy Glass]

Yeah - ask "blunt knife" Thomas

[Andy Ceponis]

Hey Bunny! Long time no see.
I like to go on Sunday nights. Care to join me?
We could stop and get some icecream while were "at it".

[Shama Khan]

Sahir, I've a question about your name.
Is that your real name?
I am into urdu poetry and after all these months it just hit me that your name is of two famous indian poets of urdu poetry.
Sahir Ludhwiyani (sp?) and Shibley Naumani.
If that's your real name, were your parents into poetry? I am just curious.
Shama
[This message has been edited by Shama Khan (edited August 21, 2001).]

[Sahir Shibley]

Yes my real name is Sahir Shah Shibley . Shibley is my last name, so my parents had very little choice in the matter. My given name is Sahir ( the Shah in the middle is a sort of handle roughly equivalent to Mister). I dont think my parents ever heard of this Sahir Ludhianvi guy, they probably thought Sahir would be an appropriate name for someone who would be turned into a frog one day
[This message has been edited by Sahir Shibley (edited August 21, 2001).]

[Anonymous]

What a sad story Sahir :rolleyes. Thinking like a frog is different from being one( Frog)( read it properly from the orginal post). But, I personally feel now you can be a perfect one if u wish to become one. .
PS: Someone became Monkey for the second time to enlighten Sahir
bc'z of his intelligence level and perception. . No more Sahir.
Sorry ranchers for breaking the rules.

[Maky]

Americans ignorant about Hinduism: survey
Josy Joseph in New Delhi
Over 95 per cent of Americans have little or no knowledge of Hinduism, though the religion of a million myths, gurus and eastern mysticism has grown tenfold in the last decade in the United States.
During a survey designed by R F Binder Research and conducted by Opinion Research Corporation, Princeton, New Jersey, a vast majority of Americans gave bizarre answers when queried about Hinduism.
The survey was conducted for the Hindu Leaders Forum, a voluntary organisation in the US, to coincide with the Vishwa Dharam Prasaar Yatra that is now travelling to five cities in the States.
According to a statement issued by the organisers, "Thousands of people are expected to attend the Yatra in each city, where several of India's foremost spiritual leaders will be speaking, including Swami Chidanand Saraswatiji (Muniji) and Swami Divyanand Teerth Jagadguru Sankaracharya of Bhanpura."
Average Americans said Hinduism evokes images of "cow worship", "many gods and temples", or "India". And, strangely, 59 per cent of those interviewed were not even interested in learning any further.
"Although Hindus live in all major cities in the US and total over 1.4 million here, according to the survey, 71 per cent of Americans said they had no contact with their Hindu neighbours," said a statement issued on behalf of industrialist B K Modi, director of the Hindu Leaders Forum. Modi is also chairman of ModiCorp, Modi Holding and Modi Tek.
"There appears to be a significant gap between the growth and presence of the Hindu population in the United States, and Americans' knowledge of Hindu beliefs and practices," Modi said.
The study also said there is very little knowledge among average Americans about the high purchasing power of Hindus in the US or their immense influence on the new US economy.
"Hindus in America have approximately $20 billion of purchasing power annually, yet, according to the survey, 75 per cent of Americans are unaware of their positive contributions to the community," Modi said.
According to the Indian embassy in Washington, high levels of education have enabled Indian Americans to become a productive segment of the US population, with 72.3 per cent participating in the work force.
The Opinion Research Corporation conducted the telephone survey from August 2-5, 2001, among a national probability sample of 1,001 adults comprising 501 men and 500 women living in private households throughout the continental United States.
The survey said there are over 100 Hindu temples in the US, but 98 per cent of Americans have never been to one.
"Over 50 per cent of Americans recognise the growing religious diversity in their communities, but the survey finds that there is a need for greater interaction between the Hindu and non-Hindu populations in order to foster familiarity and understanding between cultures," the release said.
Modi said the Hindu Leaders Forum wants to foster greater awareness of Hinduism's rich heritage and promote genuine understanding among people of different faiths, for which it has organised the first world yatra in over 100 years.
The yatra, expected to travel to 40 countries and 50 cities in five continents, reached the US on August 20 in Miami, Florida. From there, it moved to Atlanta, Georgia, on August 21 and will move on to Washington, DC, on August 22 and Chicago on August 24 before concluding at Los Angeles on August 26.
Modi said the yatra has two purposes. "For the local Hindu populations in these cities, the yatra is a way to bring the whole community together to celebrate and acknowledge their common heritage. For the rest of the United States, the purpose is to demonstrate that Hindus are part and parcel of American life and that America is being enriched by our contributions."

[Andy Ceponis]

Maybe most Americans just dont care?

[Indian Guy]

Mr. Jacob,
I hate you from bottom of my heart but still I won�t go on killing any and every �real american�. I will wait for you to meet.
Take care (i feel u shd).

[Bhushan Jawle]

Jacob Golden (If that is your real name)
I have observing your comments regarding McDonalds lawsuit and can't help on some of those

I do on the other hand do not feel that I should have to live my life according to the lowest common intelligence denominator.

I think the lawsuit was not to make McDonalds stop selling beef or ban-beef-eating-on-this-planet.

If a group of people launch a Class Action lawsuit against someone precisely for the fact that they do not subscribe to their religion or honor their God(s) and none of the people stand up and say it is absurd I think that they are also accomplices.

I think anybody with basic knowledge of English and having "lowest common intelligence denominator" (as mentioned by you previously) to understand the meaning of "Fair" would agree with me that a product (F.Fries in this case) with beef flavouring cannot be sold as "Vegeterian" product. All vegeterians(not Hindus) are being deceived here. BTW according to latest news I just saw on CNN McDonalds has apologized to vegeterian and religious groups and agreed to pay $10 Mil. to settle the case.

Unfortunately the way things are set up the only people who can criticize Hindu’s are Hindu’s. If I say something negative about a Hindu I am, as was misused, here a racist. Until I see Hindu’s admonish those amongst them I will continue to see Hindu’s as a threat.

I don't know where you got that from. I firmly belive now that hatred is evil and is capable of pushing human beings into halucinating.

Are Americans over there suing Indian corporations because they did ignorant things?

For what ? Just for fun ?
If you are talking about Enron
then you must be aware of whats going on about Enron in U.S.

[frank davis]

what i love most now about internet forums and chat rooms is watching how topics and subjects suddenly change, mutate, evolve or die. It so random and chaotic; the unpredictability is exciting in a perverse way. In fact now, i find myself starting to contribute to the chaos...

[Guy Allard]

I think y'all need to lighten up a little.
The 'animal fat in the fries' thing is highly ironic (and therefore amusing) to Americans who have been around a while. There was a case some time back (20-25 yrs?) when one of the burger companies got sued here (US) for serving soya patties with no meat.

[Michael Ernest]

I think it's just a matter of doing what you say, and saying what you do. Companies like McDonald's often change up their products in ways they know will matter to consumers. In the name of cutting cost or increasing profit, they weigh the cost of saying nothing against the cost of saying something. McDonald's has a long history of it: processed potato in their "milk"shakes, soy extenders in the beef, animal fat instead of vegetable oil for deep frying (for obvious reasons).
Sometimes it's not even corporate evil, it's a supplier with a bad deal looking to carve out a wash or meager profit. It's all in the way business gets done; greed can manifest on any level and have an impact.