The Paranormal

[Manku Thimma]

>leave the rest of us alone
Leave you all chained in your cave, content with watching shadows on the wall?
Or using a more contemporary idea, could I say, You blue-pill taker! (I mean the one from Matrix, not the one from Pfizer )

[Mapraputa Is]

I should admit that I feel kinda guilty for leaving Thomas to fight against you all
Looks like he is the only sensible person here
Well, I think there are more of us, "doubting Thomases" , who silently watch our spiritual leader's sermon and do not interfere, because we are apathetic and severely disinterested.
Why are we disinterested ?
I am afraid the reasons are purely irrational. Let's take a look at such a primitive and well-researched field as Java. What kind of mystery can we expect from a well-documented, human beings' creature? Read any serious Java book, written by remarkable intelligent and higly experienced authors. Then read errata for this book
To think that we can have more-or-less adequate opinion about paranormal phenomena means to fool ourselves.
What we think about PP is based not on knowledge, of course, but on emotions, and maybe even on some aestetic feelings. I can say only for myself, and in my case these are probably aestetic feelings that make me avoid "PP" subject. It's just too flashy for my taste.
There are real feelings, and there are Hollywood's cheap imitations. There are real mysteries, and there are ... paranormal phenomena For me, they are just substitutions, designed to render harmless our natural curiosity. Of course, I can be totally wrong
Sorry for ranting, anyway

[This message has been edited by Mapraputa Is (edited August 30, 2001).]

[Anonymous]

I guess I would have to define "paranormal" more narrowly in order to say that I believe in it.
I don't consider any sort or ESP, telekenesis, telepathy, remote sensing, palmistry, or any other "psychic abilities" to be paranormal. I consider them to be in a class with the ouija board. Does anybody really believe that Milton-Bradley can place spirits and mystic forces into a board game box in their factory? That stuff is all a bunch of crap.
Forces of God, miracles, near-death experiences, ghosts, and the like I consider paranormal and I believe they happen. By miracles, I don't mean seeing the face of Jesus in a taco or watching a statue cry. Please! A true miracle would serve a purpose beyond someone being able to witness it. For example, a miraculous recovery from an illness following a congregation's prayer or something like that.
Yeti, Nessi, and Tahoe Tessie are just fun stuff that I like to think might be out there and might not. I don't feel strongly either way, except that, like Santa and the tooth fairy, it's more fun to believe than not to believe.
Finally, alien encounters? Only if they reported Elvis being on board the mother ship while they were being probed!

[Nanhesru Ningyake]

>Looks like he is the only sensible person here
What is sensible, what is nonsensible, how can humans be a judge of themselves? We need a nonpartisan alien here
>because we are apathetic and severely disinterested
Perhaps the topic was not meaningless drivelous enough for you? I suspect this post of yours was a sinister underhanded attempt in dragging this thread to such a state?
>To think that we can have more-or-less adequate opinion about paranormal phenomena means to fool ourselves
That's exactly what I was trying to tell Thomas - don't jump to conclusions based on what you don't know
>in my case these are probably aestetic feelings that make me avoid "PP" subject
Hmmm, you sound evasive, perhaps you are a Russian Remote Viewing Agent, here in the US because you wanted a closer view?