Originally posted by <Mahatma Gandhi>:
Educated people in india should defenitely oppose sangh parivar activities.they are pulling india 1000000 years backwards by injecting communal toxins into innocent peoples minds.
Originally posted by <Mahatma Gandhi>:
Killing muslims and christiens will not make nothing good for india.even though they are minority,they are very large in number.so killing them will only make india burn.kill all minority and gain power for hindu's is not practical.
Originally posted by <Mahatma Gandhi>:
Sangh parivar is giving their all for brainwashing uneducated youth and using them for killing minorities and making troubles and utilising that troubles for power.they got power only by communal riots.all good indians should oppose them for a good future.
I'm just saying...it's right there!
Commentary From the Sidelines of history
Originally posted by <Mahatma Gandhi>:
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Originally posted by Sriraj Rajaram:
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However that being said, I'd like to point out Similarly when I came to America, within a few years I shed some of my Hindu principles to fit better in the Christian American society. Make no mistake about it, I'm still very much a Hindu and still very far from being a Christian.. but as long as I am in America I will accept the Chrisitian way of life. When I set foot in India, I will expect them to reciprocate.
[ June 06, 2003: Message edited by: Sriraj Rajaram ]
originally posted by pakka desi
Even people educated in missionary schools support Sangh because they can now see through their gameplan.
originally posted by pakka desi
And you'll see that Sangh will get more support.
"Thanks to Indian media who has over the period of time swiped out intellectual taste from mass Indian population." - Chetan Parekh
Originally posted by <Mahatma Gandhi>:
in past,education mean humanity and knowledge.educated people in past pocessed humanity
also.now in india,for a mass educated people having only knowledge(no improvement in humanity and true charector due to education).they are only selfish people with some knowledge in some field,they aquired it for only better living.only these kind of selfish people joining in sangh parivar.a truely eduacated person can never think in communal way.
"Thanks to Indian media who has over the period of time swiped out intellectual taste from mass Indian population." - Chetan Parekh
Originally posted by Sankar Subbiah:
Uneducated masses? Dude, did you learn History in your school? If not, let me know. I can teach you some..
"Thanks to Indian media who has over the period of time swiped out intellectual taste from mass Indian population." - Chetan Parekh
"Thanks to Indian media who has over the period of time swiped out intellectual taste from mass Indian population." - Chetan Parekh
Originally posted by Sankar Subbiah:
Here what you are talking about it subsect of the Hindu religion. And BTW, who is preaching to force something? All I asked was why don't we accept the fact that India is (artificially) united because of the religion. Let me remind you what was the foundation when the country was divided in 1947.
Muslim majority - Pakistan
Hindu majority - India
Whether you agree with it or not, that is the fact.
Originally posted by Ravish Kumar:
I think you are talking abt Moughal era. I read it here and responded it in my previous post.
"Thanks to Indian media who has over the period of time swiped out intellectual taste from mass Indian population." - Chetan Parekh
"Thanks to Indian media who has over the period of time swiped out intellectual taste from mass Indian population." - Chetan Parekh
Originally posted by Ravish Kumar:
You are 90% correct....
You are 90% correct because looks like you think religion and society/culture is 2 different things.
I think India is united because it has almost same social culture [not because of Hindu religion.]
I think they are same. Its foolishnesss to be in US and not to celeberate X-mas. If you are in US then you will do all your shoping in Dec only
You cant say that I wont shop in X-mas cause I am Hindu.
This was a political theory of division. Real story if you want to know then read "Freedom at midnight".
Pakistan is not Jinaah's win but it was Gandhi ji's failure.
Nations are not build on the basis of religion.[/QB]
Originally posted by Ravish Kumar:
[QB]Panditji talked about "Hindi-Chini bhai bhai".
You know what followed...
FYI, at that time, defense officials said Pandit ji to not to wahe war as our army was weak.
But Pandit ji said, "Let them come to Delhi but I want the village."
China ocupied one village at that time.
I dont remember the name of book .. this was written in that book. And actually writer was some defense personal and was blaiming Pandit ji to go for war when all defence officials knew the end result.
Originally posted by Ravish Kumar:
in early 1500 Babar came India and then lived here[One can always cry that his grave is not in India] and after that till Bhadurshah Jafar they ruled. I dont think there was any evidence where hindus were treated differently than Muslim. [Exception is time period of Auranjeb]
Originally posted by Sankar Subbiah:
you say they are 2 different thing. which is true??
"Thanks to Indian media who has over the period of time swiped out intellectual taste from mass Indian population." - Chetan Parekh
Originally posted by Sankar Subbiah:
That is what I pointed out... He was singing "Hindi-Chini bhai bhai" when they were planning India's invasion. He failed to listen to the army commander at that time.
"Thanks to Indian media who has over the period of time swiped out intellectual taste from mass Indian population." - Chetan Parekh
Originally posted by Sankar Subbiah:
When people say Islamic invasion, they are not talking about Mohal only. Have you forget about Timor? what do you say about Ghazini? When Aladi Ghilji attacked Madurai, the priests in the Meenakshi temple hid the main lingam somewhere inside the temple and placed a fake one in place of it. As expected, he came and broke it. It is still there in that temple for display. You will not read it in any history books. So many incidents are like that. What happend to the people in Afganistan and Pakistan who lived there before the islamic invasion? Everyone knows how Islam spread in Asia. Did you forget about Jaziya tax imposed on non-muslims?
"Thanks to Indian media who has over the period of time swiped out intellectual taste from mass Indian population." - Chetan Parekh
Originally posted by Sankar Subbiah:
And do you know there is a major road still being called as "Aurangzeb road" in our capital, New Delhi? That is the beauty of Hindu tolerance...
Originally posted by Ravish Kumar:
You got it ..
Religion depends on society, society depends upon 100s of thing starting form geographic location to number of times a person laugh in that group of people which will make society.
Once this cycle completes. I mean a religion takes birth as per at that time society's need.
Now religion starts changing society but a very little bit ..its very difficult to change a society and it takes long time...
and most of the time religion fails to change society.
We can see what happend to Jain's religion. Its almost verge of disapper cause the rules and regulations are like that society cant follow.
you asked :
How many non Hindus celebrate Deepavali or Krishna Javanthi in India?
I ask how many Hindu celeberate Id.
And very obviously .. why should I celeb Id .. I am Hindu.
Its all depends on us, us means us .. have we come out of our ghettos.... till we dont come out we never know that muslims do celeb Holi/Diwali.
And even if we dont celeb then it does not make them any less Indian then you and me. :-|
And I wonder till when celeb fest makes some Hindu or Muslim.....
You must be knowing .. down here .. most of the fest are not celeb which are celeb in North.... and vice-versa.
Have you ever invited any muslim to your home ??
We always cry that they demand for Halal... when some one has chaged his faith ..
can you make any veggie to eat non-veg .. he wont eat just because of faith ...
And if you think XMas shopping is somthing to do with culture,
So what do you think?? X-mas shoping is what ?
Its religious event ?
So as per you .. only christian shop owner should decorate their shops in X-mas.
I have never been in US. Neither I am consulting anyone. ANd I am 99% sure that all shopkeeper must be decorating their shops regardless of their religion.
You cant say that I wont shop in X-mas cause I am Hindu.
Its the failure of base of creation of pakistan.
Originally posted by Ravish Kumar:
Do you want to change it to AndColorPocket?
There were, there are, there will be always fanatics.
Would you be happy if I say "Muslim rulers are peace loving person and the Islamic rule is the golden age of India"? Twisting the History makes you happy, be happy with it.
Originally posted by Mahatma Gandhi:
i told only a fact.i have only told that muslim rulers were very nice.they just ruled nicely
Originally posted by Ravish Kumar:
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Originally posted by Sankar Subbiah:
Would you be happy if I say "Muslim rulers are peace loving person and the Islamic rule is the golden age of India"? Twisting the History makes you happy, be happy with it.
"Thanks to Indian media who has over the period of time swiped out intellectual taste from mass Indian population." - Chetan Parekh
Originally posted by Ravish Kumar:
[QB]
I was off..
"Thanks to Indian media who has over the period of time swiped out intellectual taste from mass Indian population." - Chetan Parekh
Originally posted by Sankar Subbiah:
[QB]If you feel happy about Mugal era and thinks it is a golden age, be happy about it, I can not change your preception.
If you are open minded, let me know. I can provide links.
Please provide.[PM me]
I always love to see both sides.
BTW if you regular visitors of such fanatic sites than if you remember then even ShivSena's site provided a mpeg which showed murder of Pearl. And after that 10 more links of Islamic intolerance.
Would you believe it what ShivSena's site was showing as Pearl murder. It was not Pearl murder at all but it was clip by some Teacher in europe who killed his son and filmed it.
I dont understand even if I say that OK Mughal era was not golden era. Hindus suffered like hell.
How does it matter today ?
What is the relevance of it today ??
Should I kill all muslims ?
Should we impose all Hindu's law on Muslim ?
Should we ban Cow slaughter ?
Should we say that now onwards Indian Muslim women will put sindoor ??
What we are looking for ?? What do we want ??
The way you said to Sammer that go and ask Pakistani or B Deshi.
Why the f$%^ he should go and ask a Pakistani or B Deshi ... why cant you tell him the facts which you want me to tell.
Again .. OK you be happy Mughal era was bad for Indian history and specialy Hindus
So now... what next ??
what is plan of action ??
"Thanks to Indian media who has over the period of time swiped out intellectual taste from mass Indian population." - Chetan Parekh
I'm just saying...it's right there!
Originally posted by Srini Madgula:
1.India never invaded any country in her last 1000 years of
history.
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