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by the way , i really donot understand this conflict between pakistan and india..
actually the whole region is known as india. But at the time the British left the rule, they divided it into 3: pak, ind, bangladesh later...
what is the logic here? if i am junaist should i live in a different country? why not do pak. and india unite? They are paying millions of dollars even milliards to have the potential to kill each other. that is so silly! ethnically there are no differences I think.. OK around 300 languages are spoken in the total subcontinent. but that should not be a reason of separatism? based on federalism, they may, they should live together.
do any indian or pakistani colleagues mind enlighting us about the issue?
 
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Originally posted by R�stem e Zal:

what is the logic here? if i am junaist should i live in a different country? why not do pak. and india unite? They are paying millions of dollars even milliards to have the potential to kill each other. that is so silly! ethnically there are no differences I think.. OK around 300 languages are spoken in the total subcontinent. but that should not be a reason of separatism? based on federalism, they may, they should live together.
do any indian or pakistani colleagues mind enlighting us about the issue?


The simple one word answer to all of your question is "POLITICS", if you trust me.
 
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Originally posted by R�stem e Zal:
by the way , i really donot understand this conflict between pakistan and india..
actually the whole region is known as india. But at the time the British left the rule, they divided it into 3: pak, ind, bangladesh later...


Umm, not quite on the mark. When the Brits left the Indian sub-continent, the partition of then India was into 2 parts - the current India & Pakistan. What is Bangladesh today was actually part of Pakistan. The current day Bangladeshies were treated as 2nd class citizens (this is according to them, I have no 1st-hand experience of this), that part of Pakistan was also not treated well in terms of infrastructure, economic progress etc. To add to this mix, the East Pakistan (present day Bangladesh) was primarily Bengali speaking and had a different Islamic sect than main (West) Pakistan. So Sheikh Mujibur Rehman started a secessionary movement in East Pakistan; Gen. Yahya Khan (Pak. dictator) was having a lot of problem countering it & thought that a war with India would unite East & West Pak. It didn't go according to his plans/desires. This was the Indo-Pak war of 1971 in which the Indians got support from Sheikh Mujibur Rehman's fighters & they in turn reciprocated by helping him get independence from Pakistan. So, Bangladesh came into existence as a separate, independent, sovereign nation in 1971.

Originally posted by R�stem e Zal:
what is the logic here? if i am junaist should i live in a different country? why not do pak. and india unite? They are paying millions of dollars even milliards to have the potential to kill each other. that is so silly! ethnically there are no differences I think.. OK around 300 languages are spoken in the total subcontinent. but that should not be a reason of separatism? based on federalism, they may, they should live together.
do any indian or pakistani colleagues mind enlighting us about the issue?


Well, this requires a lot of history study; I'll try to give a precis of this. After WW2, Britain realized that they couldn't hold on to India as a colony because it was not economically or financially viable. Why? Primarily because of the devastation that was wrought in Britain by the war. It became increasingly evident that they would have to leave India. It was decided that Independent India would be a democracy. At that time, the Indian National Congress was headed by Nehru and was a protege of Mahatma Gandhi. MG himself didn't want power. But another leader of INC Mohammad Ali Jinnah felt that in Independent India muslims will be a minority (which is true) and that their status would be below that of the majority hindus. So, he wanted a separate nation where muslims would be the majority and could call their home. Not a few in India believe that the Brits put him upto this. I don't know. There is no evidence of this. MG was aghast. He offered Jinnah the Prime Ministership of Independent India which Jinnah refused. So that led to the partitioning of that land into 2 countries.
Part of the agreement was that state could decide which country they wanted to join. It was also agreed that the ruler of a principality could make this decision on his own. At that time, Hyderabad was ruled by a muslim Nizam. He wanted to join Pakistan. Now, Hyderabad fell within the boundaries of the rest of independent India. So, there was an embargo put around Hyderabad and the Nizam felt threatened & pressured and acceded to India.
At the same time Kashmir was ruled by a hindu king. He wasn't sure what he wanted to do. Jinnah thought that he would push him into joining Pakistan & so Gen. Liaquant Ali Khan led the Pakistani Army into Kashmir. This jolted Nehru out of his slumber & idealistic reveries. He sent the Indian army & the 1st war was fought between India & Pak. When cease-fire was declared a 3rd of Kashmir was in Pakistan's control. Today it is called Pak Occupied Kashmir. Part of this is actually under Chinese control. There were some other things happened (or didn't happen) like the British Army that was stationed there to protect the people didn't get involved (although they were supposed to have per agreement) and some other things.
Anyway, the dividing line between PoK & Kashmir was deemed the Line of Control and a decision was made that a referendum will be sought from the people of Kashmir. At that time, it appears that a significant number of muslims were leaning towards joining India, a good number towards Pakistan and I believe a rather small number wanted to be an independent country. At that time, there were a lot of hindus in the beautiful Kashmir valley (Nehru himself was from Kashmir). An uneasy calm prevailed for the next 35-40 years. Then USSR invaded Afghanistan & mujahiddeen fought them off (with US help). One USSR left Afghanistan the jihadis in Afghanistan looked around for a new cause (they were fighters). They found Kashmir. So terrorism exploded in there and the beautiful valley was now ugly & red with blood. Most hindus fled. Pakistan has always supported those in Kashmir who want to secede from India. There is enough evidence (presented at the US Congress under various administrations) that many of these islamic terrorists were being trained in Pakistan.
That is why India & Pakistan have been enemies since 1948 and all over a piece of land. If Nehru & Jinnah had any foresight, they could had declared the LoC as the official border between the 2 countries and there probably would not have been all this trouble and 2 countries could had lived happily ever after as friendly neighbors.
 
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