Uncontrolled vocabularies
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Good point. "Pro-abortion" would actually mean 'in favor of forcing people to have abortions even when they don't want to'.
Really? Would pro-capital punishment then mean you were in favor of executing everyone?
Originally posted by Ellen Zhao:
I really hate to be the only child in my family. There are many side-effects of the one-child-policy of China: there is egocentric tendency of the child...just to name a one. But...Bert's simple math above is totally aussagekr�ftig, I cannot imagine how crowd the earth has already been, if in the early 1980's, China didn't take any measurement of birth control. Still this issue is too complicated I don't feel comfortable to simply say it's a "good" or "bad" thing. I like children very much I want to have more than three. But before that, there's still a long way to go...
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Originally posted by Warren Dew:
A tangent to the topic, but what's wrong with two rather than one or three? At some point, even China will need to come back up to a replacement rate, though I agree that much above that is probably unwise.
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Originally posted by Warren Dew:
Responding to me:
I read through my sentence several times, and I still can't find the word "everyone" in it.
I certainly wouldn't call anyone pro-capital punishment if they weren't in favor of executing anyone at all.
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Ok, would "Pro-capital punishment" mean 'in favor of forcing juries to execute people even when they don't want to'?
Originally posted by John Dunn:
I believe some charismatic young woman will organize a way for woman to help one another and not feel ashamed about it.
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Originally posted by Ernest Friedman-Hill:
"Pro-capital punishment" means being in favor of having capital punishment as an option when circumstances warrant. "Pro-choice" means being in favor of having abortion as an option when circumstances warrant./QUOTE]
The question was about "pro-abortion". If "pro-capital punishment" can mean "being in favor of having capital punishment as an option when circumstances warrant" then why can't "pro-abortion" mean "being in favor of having abortion as an option when circumstances warrant"? Why must the euphemism of "pro-choice" be used? Should people who are pro-capital punishment start insiting that they be called "pro-choice"?
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Originally posted by Ernest Friedman-Hill:
[qb]
"Pro-capital punishment" means being in favor of having capital punishment as an option when circumstances warrant. "Pro-choice" means being in favor of having abortion as an option when circumstances warrant./QUOTE]
The question was about "pro-abortion". If "pro-capital punishment" can mean "being in favor of having capital punishment as an option when circumstances warrant" then why can't "pro-abortion" mean "being in favor of having abortion as an option when circumstances warrant"? Why must the euphemism of "pro-choice" be used? Should people who are pro-capital punishment start insiting that they be called "pro-choice"?[/QB]
That's interesting. I'm just going to start calling it Pro-Abortion.Doesn't quite have the same passive tounge and cheek tone anymore, does it.
[ May 01, 2004: Message edited by: Gregg Bolinger ]
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Originally posted by Gregg Bolinger:
That brings up another interesting topic. Who should be the deciding voice when the wife wants an abortion but the husband wants the baby. And vice verca.
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Originally posted by Gregg Bolinger:
There are plenty of living choices that can be made. Sure, you say it's healthy for someone who can make that statement. And when that ends in abortion, how healthy is the dead baby?
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Ok, would "Pro-capital punishment" mean 'in favor of forcing juries to execute people even when they don't want to'?
"No one appreciates the very special genius of your conversation as the dog does."
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
... Life only occurs after the sperm fertilizes the egg. ...It takes a conscious act between a man and a woman to produce a human life. ...
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Originally posted by Stefan Wagner:
The argument was an ironic exaggeration, but shows again, that definitions are problematic.
I'm sorry but that is completely wrong. The Church's prohibition against contraception has nothing to do with "potential human beings". It has to do with the fact that the Church believes it is intrinsically evil to separate the marriage act between conjugal love and procreation. You can read Humanae Vitae if you care what the Church actually teaches.Originally posted by Warren Dew:
In fact, it's basically reasoning about potential human beings that's behind the Catholic church's prohibition against contraception.
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Originally posted by Richard Hawkes:
Sure, I'm no biologist. An egg is not 'dead' though is it? I realise its a pretty tenuous argument but there doesn't seem to be much difference between an unfertilised egg and an egg just starting its development after fertilisation.
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
It has to do with the fact that the Church believes it is intrinsically evil to separate the marriage act between conjugal love and procreation.
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
[QB]I'm sorry but that is completely wrong. The Church's prohibition against contraception has nothing to do with "potential human beings". It has to do with the fact that the Church believes it is intrinsically evil to separate the marriage act between conjugal love and procreation. You can read Humanae Vitae if you care what the Church actually teaches.
Originally posted by Marilyn de Queiroz:
Or at least seem completely dogmatic and arbitrary to some people.
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