Originally posted by Doug Slattery:
after they learned Unix, they thought it was what an OS should be. May I be so bold to say that it is the OS for real men.
Originally posted by Pat Farrell:
Real men toggle in programs using console switches, and their code swaps to high speed paper tape.
Originally posted by Doug Slattery:
It seems to be getting a little warm in here.
MS has been know to use it's market share to force retail outlets to install windows, and thus charge the customers for it. Go into a big box store and TRY to buy a PC WITHOUT windows.
MS has also been known to push the competition aside. For a while, when you bought a PC, Microsoft messenger came pre-installed. Microsoft forced other IM services, such as Yahoo's or AOL's, to pay Microsoft a FEE to have their IM client pre-installed on the desktop
Windows in better than all the others OSs, in terms of market penetration. It captured what majority of people wanted
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Originally posted by Ann Basso:
Windows in better than all the others OSs, in terms of market penetration. It captured what majority of people wanted. It got the right combination of price, quality, ease of use, business practices, and 10 others that I don't know. It is possible that windows in not the best in any of these factors. But it is the best in terms of the combination of all factors. The end result proves it.
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Originally posted by Ulf Dittmer:
As was pointed out before, quantity proves very little about quality. It also proves very little about what people wanted to do; it only shows what people did do. And judging by what most Windows users one talks to say about it, it's pretty clear that what they ended up with is not what they wanted, for the most part. Its latest incarnation -Vista- is a rolling trainwreck that just about everybody who has a choice steers clear of.
Originally posted by Ann Basso:
So obviously, they did something right. They were at the right place at the right time.
Calling an OS "better" or "worse" than another OS, without specifying the aspect, is childish at best.
But it is the best in terms of the combination of all factors.
Originally posted by Ulf Dittmer:
Or would you say that "A is better than B" means something different than "A is better than B when all factors are considered"?
[ June 06, 2008: Message edited by: Ulf Dittmer ]
Kernigan and Ritchie said that they built Unix because the boss would not buy them a PDP-10.
Unix has some newer and great ideas, but it was named as a pun on Multics and has a lot of Tenex in it.
Real men toggle in programs using console switches, and their code swaps to high speed paper tape.
"The differential equations that describe dynamic interactions of power generators are similar to that of the gravitational interplay among celestial bodies, which is chaotic in nature."
Originally posted by Ulf Dittmer:
Correct. Which is precisely what you did in your earlier post
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Originally posted by Bear Bibeault:
Are you seriously trying to contend that that's a meaningful statistic? Are you really surprised that a search term containing a single 'x' yields a large result set?
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Originally posted by Arvind Birla:you do realise that had MS not bought a percentage of the company and pumped in much needed $$ it might have gone under by now?
Originally posted by Arvind Birla:
you do realise that had MS not bought a percentage of the company and pumped in much needed $$ it might have gone under by now?
Originally posted by Ann Basso:
... Windows in better than all the others OSs, in terms of market penetration. It captured what majority of people wanted. It got the right combination of price, quality, ease of use, business practices, and 10 others that I don't know. It is possible that windows in not the best in any of these factors. But it is the best in terms of the combination of all factors. The end result proves it.
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Originally posted by marc weber:
...We could even conclude that they've positioned their rest rooms in the optimal location with respect to the condiment counter.
"The differential equations that describe dynamic interactions of power generators are similar to that of the gravitational interplay among celestial bodies, which is chaotic in nature."
I think the only thing volume "proves" is Microsoft's marketing savvy (regardless of whether it's ethical or legal) and their fortuitous positioning (being at the right place at the right time).
Originally posted by Nicholas Jordan:
...It probably proves that they, like you, are Masters of the Subtle...
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Originally posted by marc weber:
Probably too subtle at times, which tends to get me into trouble.
Originally posted by Ann Basso:
You are taking the sentence out of context. What I said was, "It got the right combination of price, quality, ease of use, business practices, and 10 others that I don't know. It is possible that windows in not the best in any of these factors. But it is the best in terms of the combination of all factors. The end result proves it. "
So basically, I was talking about the factors that I mentioned and some others that I do not know about. But these factors are neither infinite and not non-deterministic. These are the factors which have made windows widespread. So what you mean by "all" is not what I meant by "all". So does that mean windows is better than xyz? I don't think this question makes sense.
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