I completed a course prior to the Oracle transition, will that course count toward certification?
Only the courses on the list above will count towards the training requirement. Earlier versions of these courses will not count. The list of approved courses is subject to modification/expansion as new courses are released and older courses retire
Ivan Krizsan wrote:Bad news, boys and girls.
I wrote to Oracle and asked about resubmitting a failed assignment after August 1st and received this answer:
Yes, if the candidate has to retake any exam or assignment after 01 Aug 2011, then they have to complete the Hands-on course requirement.
Regards,
OCP Team
Enjoy!
Ivan Krizsan wrote:Bad news, boys and girls.
I wrote to Oracle and asked about resubmitting a failed assignment after August 1st and received this answer:
Yes, if the candidate has to retake any exam or assignment after 01 Aug 2011, then they have to complete the Hands-on course requirement.
Regards,
OCP Team
Enjoy!
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Malte Wannerskog wrote:It does not say that you have to participate in an instructor-lead course?
Roel De Nijs wrote:
Malte Wannerskog wrote:It does not say that you have to participate in an instructor-lead course?
Maybe you should read a bit more carefully. Beneath the overview of the certification paths with the approved trainings, you can read the following:
*Approved Training:
Only instructor-led in-Class or instructor-led online courses (includes Live Web Classes – LWC and Live Virtual classes – LVC) from the above approved list of Oracle University courses count toward the training requirement. Self Study CD-Rom and Knowledge Center (including Recorded Web Courses – RWC) courses are excellent study and reference tools but DO NOT meet the Hands-on Course Requirement for certification.
OCPJP (310-065) - 88%
Sean Keane wrote:I think we all agree the introduction of courses as a requirement is a negative thing. So how about some concrete ideas of trying to persuade Oracle to change their mind?
I'll get the ball rolling.
1) We could create an online petition http://www.petitiononline.com/create_petition.html
2) We could mass email Oracle
If anyone has any ideas of how to get this story into the media, I think that would be useful, as a company is much more likely to change their mind due to negative publicity about their company rather than people simply complaining - I'm sure they expected people to complain when the cost of the certification increased five fold!!!
joshi deepika wrote:deadline is not 1 Aug but Virtually it is May 30. I have checked 10 sites for Part 1 in MA, USA and none of them has date for conducting the exam in June & July
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Is oracle gone made or its oracle's habit to have mean practices?
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Sean Keane wrote:
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I would read this differently. I would have thought that once you submit your assignment and get the exam done before the 1st August, then you will not have to do a course. Does this sound correct?
Charles Wu wrote:I realize the course itself also has "Required Prerequisites"...
Does it mean even Oracle listed the choice of courses. But if you have nil history of any courses, you only choice is "Java Programming Language, Java SE 6" ??!!
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Roel De Nijs wrote:If you submit both parts before August 1, 2011 you don't have to fulfill the mandatory course requirement. But if you have to resubmit the assignment (when you fail, which is unlikely) after August 1, 2011 you'll have to take the mandatory course requirement according to the latest information from Oracle (which contradicts with their earlier reponse on the same question)
Cristian Chiovari wrote:am i wrong ?
Cristian Chiovari wrote:However....i notices in your answer something else : is mandatory now to be SCJP certified for SCEA ? (previously this certification din not required other certification)
Roel De Nijs wrote:
Cristian Chiovari wrote:However....i notices in your answer something else : is mandatory now to be SCJP certified for SCEA ? (previously this certification din not required other certification)
My mistakeFor every possible java certification (except scja & scjp) you needed to be scjp certified, so I assumed it was the same for SCEA, but you don't need any other certification.
rony is that after 31st July 2011, a SCJP (certified Java Programmer) won't be eligible to take SCEA, but a person who has attended Oracle's Java Programming course would be eligible to take SCEA.
WIKIPEDIA wrote:Lawrence Joseph "Larry" Ellison (born August 17, 1944) is an American business magnate, co-founder and chief executive officer of Oracle Corporation, a major enterprise software company. As of 2011 he is the fifth[3] richest person in the world, with a personal wealth of $39.5 billion.
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Rahul Sudip Bose wrote:How can common folks like us "convince" oracle to change things for the better ? Such arm-twisting tactics are a bad sign for the future.
1 way to avoid the greedy tentacles of Oracle : Look for employers dont value certifications too much and look at real knowledge and experience instead.
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WIKIPEDIA wrote:Lawrence Joseph "Larry" Ellison (born August 17, 1944) is an American business magnate, co-founder and chief executive officer of Oracle Corporation, a major enterprise software company. As of 2011 he is the fifth[3] richest person in the world, with a personal wealth of $39.5 billion.
Looks like Larry is not happy with the fifth position.
I have already taken the needed course last year (2010/08/09 to 2010/08/12), does it count if i will start my Oracle Certified Master, Java EE 5 Enterprise Architect certification?
Hi Bernd,
We are sorry for the confusion.
Please note that the course (Developing Architectures for Enterprise Java Applications) which you have completed from BOS-it (the company) will fulfill the Hands on course requirement towards Oracle Certified Master, Java EE 5 Enterprise Architect certification track. You do not need to do the course again.
Regards,
OCP Team
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Christian Halbig wrote:Assignment purchase and submission is temporarily on hold while we ramp up our new system for submission. Candidates will be able to begin submitting assignments again on June 1, 2011.
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