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Tomcat vs. JRun

 
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Other than the price, what are the pros and cons of Tomcat vs. Macromedia JRun? Personally, I think the JRun documentation is a big plus.
 
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You also get the built in tag libraries to take care of tasks that would either a) cost you time writing yourself or b) cost you time finding equivalent tabligs on the web.
also, the macromedia forums are great.
downside is that macromedia is slow in getting out bug fixes (unless it's something so serious that it merits a "hotfix"). at least with tomcat, if you want it, you have access to nightly builds.
I use tomcat, although I haven't been using it for long. One thing I can say about JRUN compared with Tomcat is this: when I need an answer to a jrun question, I can usually get it within hours on the macromedia forums. it takes me a bit longer to get an answer on tomcat questions.
 
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Is Tomcat free for everybody (individuals AND businesses)? Also would Tomcat be considered a reasonable serlet container for businesses over something like JRUN? I'm not so worried about support, some things are made easier with one or the other, .... that sort of thing. I would like to know whether Tomcat is worth getting for a business? Thanks.

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Tomcat is fine for business use.
 
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Bear,
Is it free for all?
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Yes. There is no fee whether you use it for business or personal use.
 
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Originally posted by marc e:

downside is that macromedia is slow in getting out bug fixes (unless it's something so serious that it merits a "hotfix"). at least with tomcat, if you want it, you have access to nightly builds.


You also have access to the source so you can fix it yourself if you are so inclined.


I use tomcat, although I haven't been using it for long. One thing I can say about JRUN compared with Tomcat is this: when I need an answer to a jrun question, I can usually get it within hours on the macromedia forums. it takes me a bit longer to get an answer on tomcat questions.
Between the ranch and the tomcat-users mailing list, I've always been able to get answers very quickly; sometime from the people who've actually written the code in question.

I haven't seen the Macromedia forums so I can't compare the two though.

Also, for the most part, Tomcat has been ahead of the commercial servers in terms of supporting the latest of the servlet and jsp specs.
 
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Originally posted by Ben Souther:

Also, for the most part, Tomcat has been ahead of the commercial servers in terms of supporting the latest of the servlet and jsp specs.



Way ahead. The only commercial server that seems to give Tomcat a run in this respect is Resin. And even it is relatively dirt cheap.
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Another Tomcat advantage: no proprietary extensions that trick you into vendor-lockin.
 
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The one thing I can say for JRUN - it handles installation as the servlet handler for an IIS installation very smoothly. (Or at least it did years ago when we were using it that way.)
Modern Tomcat is entirely suitable for commercial applications. I found the Wrox "Professional Apache Tomcat 5" to be a big help.
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