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What's up with people posting the same message in several different forumns? <whine>I find this a little annoying.</whine> Mostly because answers are not in the same thread.
Does JavaRanch do this automatically? Is there a policy against this? Or is this a good idea?
 
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Maybe because they're in a hurry for an answer, or think they won't get a good answer in one forum, or they're not sure which forum to post the question in? Are all the posts entered at the same time?
 
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Yes, take a look at "How to lunch (sic) a browser", all apx. the same time. He was successfull in that he got a couple different answers. It would be nice if the answers were together, though.
 
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Sorry, this same posting in all three Java in General forums
 
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Whenever I spot somebody doing that, I delete all but one thread.
 
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What about this? I'm using BEA Weblogic and am having a problem with Container Managed Persistence, which is part of EJBs, but, if I understand correctly, CMP is implemented differently in different app servers. Would it be reasonable to post in both the EJB and BEA Weblogic forums? So far I've only posted the question to the BEA WL forum. Assuming I don't any responses, how long should I wait before posting to the EJB forum?

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Well, it depends. If you're trying to understand how to use CMP, and the answer is something that's in the EJB spec but you just dont understand it yet, then post in EJBs. If you know exactly what you're supposed to do, but it's just not working as you expect, then post in Weblogic. This system leaves it up to the individual to be the judge, but we here at the Ranch believe in the fundamental goodness of humankind. And if we don't agree with you, then we just move your posts
 
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The problem I see with crossposting is, as Micheal already pointed out, that it splits effort. As far as I know, we all strongly discourage it - I typically close all but one thread, with a link to the one.

Not sure how others feel about it, but personally to me it would be ok, *if you don't get an answer and there really is another matching forum*, to *post a link to the original discussion* in that second forum.
 
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There are few things more irritating than spending 15 or 20 minutes thinking about, writing, going back and testing something in a scratch app to make sure you're not giving out bogus information, and finally posting an answer only to find out that someone else has answered the same question in another forum.

Any burden of inconvenience should be taken up by the asker of the question.
If you're in too much of a hurry to wait a day or two and then move the question to another forum, then you should look into some paid support or hire a consultant.

If you're going to post the same question in multiple forums (which you should never do), at a bare minimum, make it known that you are doing so and list the places you've posted. This way someone can at least check to see if the question is being answered somewhere else before taking time out of his/her day to try to help you.


All of this is coverd in:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[ March 23, 2005: Message edited by: Ben Souther ]
 
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I completely agree, Ben. There are few things more frustrating than that. But it's not reasonable for us to expect all greenhorns to understand forum etiquette from day one. Some people have never used a forum and some are used to having the tag "h4xx0r_D00D_133t" and asking questions that are less intensive like "has NE1 here playd GT4? is it rox?" Then of course there are the few who never learned to be considerate of others, ever.
I'm still learning the P's & Q's and in the process have probably pissed off a few people around here and if anyone reading this is one of them, I apologize.

More cross-posting happens then you might think. I often copy/paste posted questions directly into Google before doing any serious research. When I find that the question was crossposted and answer was found elsewhere, I copy it into the Ranch thread so that other ranchers know that a solution was found and no one else wastes their time. You'd be surprised how often the questions get cross-posted to other user groups and forums OUTSIDE of the ranch.

I once made a joke to a rancher about how to solve something in a way that was completely ridiculous (with friendly intentions), assuming that they would see the error in their thinking. I knew already that this person often cross-posted to other forums, but I was shocked a couple hours later to find *in a different user group* that this person was asking if my satire-of-a-solution was a good idea. I've never felt so embarassed for another person before and I still struggle with blaming myself for it.
 
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