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Anyone tried out iAS 6.5 yet?

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Just curious to know what "real" improvements have been made in iPlanet App Server 6.5 (as opposed to bug fixes). Has anyone tried it out? Is it the same, a little better, or a lot better than iAS SP4?
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New Features in iAS 6.5
* New JDK1.3.1_02
* Encina Transaction Manager replaced with new JTS
* New Monitoring Interface
* Deploy/ Admin Tool Enhancement.
* Deployment Framework Enhancement
* Web Container Enhancement
* Enhancement for RMI/IIOP
* Performance/ Stability Enhancement
Benefits and impact of the new JVM
* Performance improvements by using HotSpot Server VM Performance increased by 30%
* Garbage Collection enhancements
* Improved debugging facilities
Deployment Framework Enhancement
*Fast Redeployment command(-redeployapp), saves
users time in redeploying.
*Deploycmd enhanced with an option (j2ee2ias) to
convert a standard J2EE application to an iAS application.
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Thanks for the laundry-list, but have you actually "worn" them? Sounds like improvements were made, but 'enhancement' is a very vague word. What I really want to know is whether anyone who doesn't work for (or is affiliated with) iPlanet or Sun has worked with 6.5 and what their comments are.
I saw an iPlanet/Sun ONE presentation (live) recently and the best the guy could say about 6.5 is "we fixed over 300 bugs", though he did mention the admin tools had been reworked some. So there were a lot of bugs fixed - big deal! There's still going to be bugs left over, and who knows how many there were to start with! iAS 6.5 sounds more like 6.0 SP5 to me, and I'd like to know that the .5 jump really meant a little more than bug fixes and a few tool changes. Using the JDK 1.3.1 is a little bigger deal, and I guess the new JTS is useful but we don't use/need a transaction manager so it doesn't mean anything to us.
So, anyone out there used 6.5??
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Also in 6.5, there is a quite different database pooling mechanism.

I've also heard the SP5 / .5 naming thing explained.

The Sun-Netscape(AOL) Alliance owns the right to use the name 'iPlanet Application Server 6.0' and 'iPlanet Application Server 6.0 SPx' where x is anything between 1 and 4.

Once the alliance ended, they were *THAT* close to releasing SP5, but to avoid the usage of 'marks', they called it 6.5, since it was now a 'Sun only' product, but before they were ready to re-introduce the whole thing as Sun ONE under release 7.

This is from the Sun rep that was in our office this week.

We have access to both 6SP4, 6.5 and a beta for 7.

We're trying out SP4 for a deployment environment, 6.5 was deemed "too different" for our uses. But I have an extra Win2k box kicking around, and i want to play with 6.5 a bit.

If I have the time, I'll let you know, and about 7 as well, as long as I'm not under an NDA.
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