Win a copy of Programmer's Guide to Java SE 8 Oracle Certified Associate (OCA) this week in the OCAJP forum!
  • Post Reply
  • Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic

Head First UML & Patterns

 
Joshua Scott
Greenhorn
Posts: 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Kathy and Bert,
First of all I would like to say, excellent job on the "Sun Certified Programmer & Developer for Java 2 Study Guide". I read on page 194 of the "Head First EJB" book that there were plans for a book in 2004, "Head First UML & Patterns".
Can you tell us when the projected release of this is?
 
Bert Bates
author
Sheriff
Posts: 8900
5
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Hey Joshua,
Thanks for asking! We're just in final planning stages now, and if things proceed as planned HF Patterns should be out in the summer. As you know, lots of things can change, so this isn't absolutely a promise quite yet, but it's a good bet
There's a Servlets book in progress, a PHP book, and a Final Cut book also!
Bert
 
Chris Mathews
Ranch Hand
Posts: 2712
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Originally posted by Bert Bates:
There's a Servlets book in progress, a PHP book, and a Final Cut book also!

You guys are crazy!
 
Bert Bates
author
Sheriff
Posts: 8900
5
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Just hungry
 
Johannes de Jong
tumbleweed
Bartender
Posts: 5089
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Final Cut
 
Bert Bates
author
Sheriff
Posts: 8900
5
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
J -
Why so blue about Final Cut?
-B
 
Johannes de Jong
tumbleweed
Bartender
Posts: 5089
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
B - I don't know what it's about, means I'm confused not blue
You & Kathy & I still need "talk" by the way
 
Mapraputa Is
Leverager of our synergies
Sheriff
Posts: 10065
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Head First UML & Patterns
Thank you everybody for the information! Now I can grab it for review before anybody else did.
Bert, do you have ISBN already?
 
Frank Malinowski
Ranch Hand
Posts: 30
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I would love to see Head First UML & Patterns. I loved Head First Java and actually read it while I was taking a Java Design Patterns class. All of the Java Design Patterns books that I read throughout last semester were lacking in one way or another. I think a Head First book would be very welcome in this area.
I am looking forward to many many more Head First books!
Keep up the great work!
Frank
 
Rafael Lee
Greenhorn
Posts: 23
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Head First UML and Patterns
I wish you can do this first. And also please include code which we can type and run and see in action.
 
Vishwa Kumba
Ranch Hand
Posts: 1066
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Originally posted by Rafael Lee:
Head First UML and Patterns
I wish you can do this first. And also please include code which we can type and run and see in action.

With plenty of Tikibean lounge conversations please.....as in HF EJB
I loved the bean chatting...
 
Tha'er Zayed
Greenhorn
Posts: 20
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
i cant wait to get this new HF book..i had such a cool experience with HF EJB.. i must say it's one of the best (if not the absolute best) books, i've ever come across in my a decade-and-a-half IT career..
i'd like to be notified when it's out..and i'd appreciate it if some one can email me at tmzayed@dm.gov.ae when that happens..

thanks a lot,
Tha'er..
 
Joshua Scott
Greenhorn
Posts: 2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Better yet, if any sees it Amazon and we can pre-order please let us know.
 
Hari DP
Greenhorn
Posts: 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Hi,

Head First EJB is excellent work. When are we getting Head First UML & Patterns.

-Hari
 
Bert Bates
author
Sheriff
Posts: 8900
5
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
We've got a couple of excellent, amazing co-authors who are working on HF Patterns, so we've moved from the planning stages to actually underway. We'll keep you posted as we have information about tech reviewers and the release date.
 
Ko Ko Naing
Ranch Hand
Posts: 3178
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Will it be helpful much for 486 exam?

Because I'm on my way to ICED 5.0

Thanks....
 
Nicholas Cheung
Ranch Hand
Posts: 4982
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Hi Bert,

How about Head First SCMAD, Head First SCDJWS and Head First SCEA?
I am waiting for your new books of the Head First series.

I think I am much more hungry than you!

Nick
 
Bert Bates
author
Sheriff
Posts: 8900
5
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Ok, here's the current scoop...

The servlets book is first - it's coming soon - we're really tired

We have some GREAT co-authors leading the charge on Patterns - it's in progress

PHP has been postponed a bit

Final cut is 'slightly' postponed - coming soon

HF Flash is being worked on by another GREAT co-author - probably will be a little slower

HF Statistics is being considered

HF SCMAD is being considered

SCJWSD is fairly low on the 'possible' list

SCEA is very low on the 'possible' list
 
Jeroen Wenting
Ranch Hand
Posts: 5093
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
who needs PHP anyway?
Better make HF JSP using JSTL (hmm, maybe call THAT HF PHP and subvert some PHP wannabees ).
 
Dean Jones
Greenhorn
Posts: 6
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I hope the HF PHP book is going to be on PHP 5...
 
Nesan Krish
Ranch Hand
Posts: 40
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Head First UML & Patterns book was promised to be released during summer. I thing the work should be in the final state now. We like to know the latest news of the release of the book. Thank you.
 
Dean Jones
Greenhorn
Posts: 6
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Oh, and if you ever think you'd want to make a "Head First Linux" book, I'd love to Co-Author that baby.
 
Kathy Sierra
Cowgirl and Author
Rancher
Posts: 1589
5
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Head First UML and Head First Design Patterns have now been split into two separate books (too much stuff for one!). The Design Patterns book will be at the end of summer, but probably more like early fall. It will DEFINITELY be fall, though--because it's coming out before OOPSLA.

UML is only just getting started--still very early. I think it is supposed to be out before the end of the year, though. We have only a small role on that one, but I'm looking forward to it!

Now about that Linux book... Dean, you better write to me! The person who was supposed to be working on that had to drop out.

kathy.sierra@wickedlysmart.com

cheers,
Kathy
 
Nesan Krish
Ranch Hand
Posts: 40
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Please clarify that the design pattern book specifically based on SCEA exam or a general one? Than you.
 
Don Stadler
Ranch Hand
Posts: 451
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Head First UML and Head First Design Patterns have now been split into two separate books (too much stuff for one!). The Design Patterns book will be at the end of summer, but probably more like early fall. It will DEFINITELY be fall, though--because it's coming out before OOPSLA.


Seems like a sound decision all around to me. UML and Design Patterns were always too much for one book. Your decision to go with Design Patterns first is a good one - as there is no shortage of UML books. Oops! There's no shortage of Design Patterns books either. But a real shortage of Design Pattern books you can grok. Which is where HF comes in.

OOPSLA. Is that about Antipatterns & Risks, Kathy?
 
Anonymous
Ranch Hand
Posts: 18944
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Me too fan. Where can we preorder? And where can we order the cool head-first caps and teahshirts?
;-) stw
 
Chris Harris
Ranch Hand
Posts: 231
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
After reading Head First EJB I am looking forward to Head First Design Patterns. I will nice to have a design pattern book that is in English
[ June 22, 2004: Message edited by: Chris Harris ]
 
Ko Ko Naing
Ranch Hand
Posts: 3178
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Originally posted by Chris Harris:
I will nice to have a design pattern book that is in English


Any other design patterns book that you have read so far not in English?
 
boyet silverio
Ranch Hand
Posts: 173
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Any other design patterns book that you have read so far not in English?


There are many design patterns books out there written in Greek.

nice holler from our Greek friends.
 
Chris Harris
Ranch Hand
Posts: 231
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I found with most of the design pattern book that out there that are great as reference books. But there are not many that clearly explain about when and just as important when not to use each pattern.

It is difficult to read most design pattern books from cover to cover. But then again that is not what the books are designed from. I see most of them as catalogue rather than a book.

To be honest I think a book on design pattern MUST be difficult to write as the whole point it that they can be used in so many different situations.

After reading HF EJB I am looking forward to a relaxed and easy to read design pattern book.

Chris
 
shobhit garg
Ranch Hand
Posts: 42
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Originally posted by Bert Bates:
Ok, here's the current scoop...

The servlets book is first - it's coming soon - we're really tired




hf java was a gr8 experience i m hungry for the servlets book
by when would it be out
keep up the good job

shobhit
 
white aura
Greenhorn
Posts: 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Yippee! I can't believe you guys are writing design patterns and uml! After reading Head First Java, I felt so empowered with all the new wise cracks I learned. Then I wondered... hmmm... it sure would be nice if they could make a design patterns or uml book. Wow! Both my wishes come true!

hmmm... Now I'm wondering if there will be a PHP book. (I better not push it)
 
Bert Bates
author
Sheriff
Posts: 8900
5
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
the current update is:

patterns is ALMOST DONE !!!

uml is just getting started

php is just getting started

flash is underway

and then a few more surprises are underway
 
Frederic Kho
Greenhorn
Posts: 4
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Gee, I love surprises!!!
 
Barbara Norway
Ranch Hand
Posts: 150
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Bert Bates, bartender and author
Member # 37958


posted May 16, 2004 10:17 PM ��� �� �� �� �� � � ��
Ok, here's the current scoop...

The servlets book is first - it's coming soon - we're really tired

We have some GREAT co-authors leading the charge on Patterns - it's in progress

PHP has been postponed a bit

Final cut is 'slightly' postponed - coming soon

HF Flash is being worked on by another GREAT co-author - probably will be a little slower

HF Statistics is being considered

HF SCMAD is being considered

SCJWSD is fairly low on the 'possible' list

SCEA is very low on the 'possible' list


HF Statistics!!! Great. I love statistics. Are you still planning on it someday?
 
alzamabar
Ranch Hand
Posts: 379
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Whata about a book to pass the IBM 141 XML Developer certification?
 
Bert Bates
author
Sheriff
Posts: 8900
5
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
It looks like we're about to get started on Statistics - again, in the past we've made the mistake of promising end dates too soon. So I can't promise any dates yet, but we ARE excited to do Statistics and we WILL keep you posted.

Sorry - at this point we're not considering any of the IBM certifications, but if you have any compelling statistics about how popular these exams are you might get us to reconsider

- Bert
 
Barbara Norway
Ranch Hand
Posts: 150
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Statistics!!!
 
Nicholas Cheung
Ranch Hand
Posts: 4982
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Hey Bert, if you would work for Statistics, how about working for Head First Quantitative Finance as well?

Nick
 
Barbara Norway
Ranch Hand
Posts: 150
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I can see it now....Head First Molecular Biology, Genetics, and Proteomics

---totally just kidding...
 
  • Post Reply
  • Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic