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Really thanks for that vital suggestion.
But the main purpose of mine posting on that subject is to know what are the standard books on those subjects(Negotiation and Advertising)Ex: Thinking in Java or complete reference on Java
Arulk, I do hope that you will understand how important is the art of negotiation & advertising in any business.
I do hope now i can receive more apt replies.
Regards.

Dear all,
I'm very much interested in learning the art of negotiation & Advertising as it will help me in realizing my vision.
Please refer some books .
Regards.

I'm in India .
I don't have any commerce background as I did all my education with Computer Science as my choice.( even in engineering)
Now i've finalised my vision & goals for my long-term in becoming a value-investor & also contemplate to start a business in Training corporate people & students in leading technologies.
(By the way i'm in IT industry right now as a software engineer.
I've got 3 sun certifications & on my way to becoming a OCA)
This is my long-term plan.
As part of accomplishing my long-term plan, i thought of doing a basic certification in finance as it would give me a organised way of approaching that finance domain( which is very essential for any business & basic pre-requisite for becoming a value-investor) & also in future it can add value to my profile(atleast i believe so)
Hope you understand this & get back with a good response.
Regards.

Guys is there any certification in finance to test us on the basics of finance?
I want to take up on the certification as it would give an organised insight into that domain & also it would add value to my career.
I'm 25 years now & becoming a value-investor is in my vision , for which the technical skills of finance like reading financial statements,knowing the finance jargons etc are mandatory.
That's the reason i'm very keen on taking up a certification in finance.
Your views are appreciated & valued.
Regards.

Dear all,
I used to refer this post frequently to update my knowledge regarding ORM technologies & to troubleshoot problems.
Thanks for all of you in this.
Now i've been going through PL/SQL procedures for quite some time.
As I perceive the main benefit of PL/SQL procedures is that it improves the performance of the application & also
1) we can do iterative loop process ( for ...) on the procedural query statements.
2) we can iterate over a collection of rows (retrieved from SQL statements) through a cursor.
3) we can check for conditional statements.
Now consider i've a PL/SQL procedure called from a iSQL*plus environment like this:

SET SERVER OUTPUT ON CREATE OR REPLACE PROCEDURE get_employeename DECLARE v_emp_name varchar2(25) BEGIN select last_name into v_emp_name from employees where employee_id=176; if(v_emp_name='Taylor') then DBMS_OUTPUT.PUT_LINE('The employee's name is '||to_char(v_emp_name)); else DBMS_OUTPUT.PUT_LINE('The employee's name is not Taylor'); END IF; END; /

When I execute this procedure through isql*plus i get the output
The employee's name is Taylor

Can anyone explain how to call this PL/SQL procedure through a J2EE application or atleast provide some good links where i can find one.

Guys is there any certification in finance to test us on the basics of finance?
I want to take up on the certification as it would give an organised insight into that domain & also it would add value to my career.
I'm 25 years now & becoming a value-investor is in my vision , for which the technical skills of finance like reading financial statements,knowing the finance jargons etc are mandatory.
That's the reason i'm very keen on taking up a certification in finance.
Your views are appreciated & valued.
Regards.

so for a normal bachelor with no posh lifestyle what would be the monthly expenses in pune?

Thanks venkat & prasad for your valid inputs regarding your pursuing a MBA course.
I also do want to know about the role of a sales or marketing guy in the industry, their job roles & description, traits they explore in their job, life of a sales geek etc.
Guys from this forum who have got good & bad experience in this please shed some light on this also.

I yesterday got a input from my friend (who works for SAP ) who is pursuing a MBA part-time course in SCM(Supply chain management) from Symbiosis which charges around Rs.25,000 for the whole course.
Does anybody know about the fee structure for MBA marketing part-time from Symbiosis.
Regards.

Dear all,
I'm about to get an offer to work in a famous Indian service company (contract job) in pune for a Junior developer position.
I'm currently living in Bangalore & holding a job in I.T
I want to know the cost of living in pune so that I can come to a conclusive decision about whether to accept the offer or not.
Also what about the exposure one can get there, as I'm in the nascent stage of my career.
Regards.

In India Parttime MBA doesnt count that much especially when you are competing with guys from top colleges like IIM's... I know ppl from ICFAI, SYMBIOSIS etc who had done their part time mba but mostly it is there for namesake only... And I havent heard of Azahagappa university's reputation for parttime mba if you want to climb up the ladder...

I fully accept the fact that in India part-time MBA doesn't count much,which i've mentioned in my first post .

Plan1:
I'm planning to take up a correspondence course in MBA-Marketing(aided by my current company) from any institute or symbiosis just for
certificate sake & meantime take up any part-time job in sales dept( to work on weekends) in my current company if they assign
me any.

The point others are stressing upon are
1) Since now you are around 22 yrs old why can't you try & write CAT to get into a top B-school in India.

But the major reason i want to move into managerial side is that i want to get some sales or marketing skills,over come my fear of rejection & communicate with ease and confidence with others so that i can master the skill of selling.
Note here that the primary motivation is not money but my desire to learn a skill which will help me in realizing my goals and dreams.

I am not clear about what you mean by this..?
I want to pursue MBA not to climb up the corporate ladder but to buy the ladder

These has also been answered in my last post.

Also in my long-term i'm planning to start a training institute on a large-scale basis in which apart
from my technical acumen more managerial knowledge would be needed.

I don't want to make more money, but money will come as a reward when i do master the skill, also i'll do get recognition in the form of offers from big companies if i prove my worth in the job, afterall what they need is to sell their products or services.
What is the point in having a B-school graduate who is not even able to communicate well who can be replaced by a geek who has proved his worth in sales & has enough experience.
In that situation does the certificate matters?
Take my situation now .
Nowadays once we enter into any company even B.Sc graduates are being offered good jobs, eventhough they're low in number.

So the reasons i'm not in a situation to pursue a course in top B-school is:
1) I'm now 25 yrs young & in line with my long-term goals & financial situations i cannot quit my current job as a software engineer & pursue full-time course in a top B-school in which i'm learning something about technology & getting some project experience which can prove to be valuable in realizing my vision.

2) By my situation & financial status currently i cannot afford to spend my time or money over a Exam (CAT) in which the probability of mine getting into in a good school is very less.
"Experience is a very good teacher & I'm banking on it"
After 3 years i.e. around 2011, i would have got good exposure in technology , project management & also i would have got my part-time MBA(certificate sake).
Using this if i could get into any small company in which I can leverage my technical experience also that would be better for me.
What do you say?

Also the other major questions is not yet answered.

"Also what are the major traits needed for sales people in this industry?
what are the opportunities, breaks & cons in this job?
What helps in succeeding in top level in this job"

Regards.

"More money and less work are what everyone wants."

Yes. That's what everybody wants but the probability of getting it is more in these job.
Also in my long-term i'm planning to start a training institute on a large-scale basis in which apart
from my technical acumen more managerial knowledge would be needed.

"I don't like reason 2. That means the workers are not getting recognized or are recieving
disproportionately low levels of recognition compared to managers. "

"For a hand burn you don't need a microscope to find it out" Likewise it's quite known that
the major part of the recognition or rewards for the project implementation goes to the project
managers who contribute little in the zone.

"If there is a worker/manager recognition imbalance, are you willing to unfairly benefit from it?"

It's just been in my core value that in whatever job i do i need to get recognition.
If i do get recognized then it means that i'm doing the job well.
Since i want to get the feeler that i would do well in sales, i'm dreaming of getting recognition
in that line.

Also any one from sales who has renovated his career from IT background please reply for this:

"Also what are the major traits needed for sales people in this industry?
what are the opportunities, breaks & cons in this job?
What helps in succeeding in top level in this job"

"Just remember that your 7 months old experience might be deceptive so I would suggest
to keep an open mind and learn more how the world works instead of how the "successful" companies work."

I've told clearly that i accept the fact that my industrial experience is very less, but
i'm not going to renovate my career for now, it will take another 2 or 3 years.
So at the time of my MBA graduation i would have got 2 or 3 years industrial experience.

"For me you seem to be the guy stuck in the corporate environment and aiming to climb the
hierarchy ladder. The catch here is...what if the ladder is leaned to the wrong wall and
spent all the time climbing to realize that you're not where you thought you'll be."

I want to pursue MBA not to climb up the corporate ladder but to buy the ladder.
Main reason is the art of managing suits my interests, values & will help me in my
long term goals & in realising my vision.

I assure that climbing up the corporate ladder is not my major motivation behind this decision.

"Careful with small print if the company is paying."

what do you mean?

what do you mean by marketing plan?
Is it about marketing myself in the jobmarket or what?
Also i'm little skeptical about whether my company would sponsor for my part-time MBA as normally they would sponsor a geek only for long-term basis not on short-term basis so that he can serve the company for long time.
Has anyone came across this transformation?
Also what are the major traits needed for sales people in this industry?
what are the opportunities, breaks & cons in this job?

Dear all,
I'm currently working as a software engineer in a reputed CMM-Level5 company in Bangalore.
My total industrial experience as a software developer counts to 7 months.
( Totally premature... i accept)
I've done my BE with Computer majors & i've got 3 sun certifications & OCA in my kit.
My hard-skills are in Java,Servlets,JSP,JSF,Hibernate,EJB,C,C++ & proficient in Oracle and MYSQL databases.
Also i've good working experience in BIRT Reporting tool,Maven,SVN & Eclipse.
I've been working in healthcare domain for sometime from now .
Regarding my softskills i do have good communication skills, passion to speak, ability to convince people
with confidence,ability to understand people & their words, good interpersonal skills, to say the least i'm a
good team-man.
3 years down the line i.e around 2011 i want to shift to managerial job.
Reasons:

My core values are focussed on
1) Understanding business & the people who run it & how the game of money works
2) Getting recognition
3) Ability to manage people & get around with them to achieve results.
I do believe we can achieve more with co-operation than confrontation.

4) Desire to travel a lot & have friends with diversified cultural background rather than sticking
to a place with job
5) Have sufficient time to raise my kids & spend with family,friends & do what I like to do like playing cricket

6) to spend more on charities & donations.

7) I do want to learn quicker & make some decent money so that i neednot work after retirement(45 years)

I personally favour more management kind of job rather than core technical job, where we need to focus
more on the technical side rather on the humane side.

Also for my long-term goals & vision,much of the management skills like communication,marketing,
inter-personal skills, man-management & time-management skills will be very much needed .

To summarize ,I want to do MBA in marketing
as it naturally suits my interests,values & which can help me in my long-term goals & in reaching
my vision

Plan1:
I'm planning to take up a correspondence course in MBA-Marketing(aided by my current company) from any institute or symbiosis just for
certificate sake & meantime take up any part-time job in sales dept( to work on weekends) in my current company if they assign
me any.

Gain:
My educational expenses are beared by the company,while i'll get the experience in sales dept as well
as in my core-technical job.

Plan2:
If they didnot give any part-time job , just i'll wait for the time to come, m'wile working in this
company for 2 years after which i'll decide accordingly.

Plan3:
If company didnot even provide any financial assistance, then i need to arrange it on my own & i'll
stick with this position for another 2 years & then i'll decide accordingly.

Enquired Institutes:
Azhagappa university : part-time MBA

4 semesters : 4*8,000==> 32,000
Exam fees : 4* 1,500 ==>06,000
Contingency expenses: ==>10,000

So, i'll get the degree with less than 50,000.

Is my strategy right ?

Has anyone renovated their career from IT developer to Sales .
What are the hurdles one needs to jump in this transformation?
Please share your experience & ideas.

Regards.