Prathima gaitonde

Hi Tim,

I did try your suggestion of editing my details, no wonder that, when I change the date it shows the changes in preview, when I say save the changes, it remains the same as 23rd. I think it just doesn't want to listen to me! I will leave it like that, at last I am happy to have my name on wall of frame.

Thanks very very much for the help,
Regards,
Prathima

Hi Tim,

A heartfelt thanks for helping me. I am confirming that my details are correct, only small correction would be I wrote the test on 13th February instead of 23rd. It wouldn't matter though.

Regards,
Prathima

Hi all,

I even tried to enter my details in that single box as shown in my last post. To my surprise when i click "Save Changes" button, the details are not changing at all!!. What might be wrong only with me trying to add the details? can anybody please help me?

With great hope!
Prathima

Hi All,

Sorry for not being in touch from 2 weeks, had been for a holiday!!. @Jaikiran Pai, thanks for the effort in finding my login id, I am really surprise, to see it hasn't been what my actual mail id is!, any way upon signing up with the id which has been stored, I get the page whose screen shot I have managed to take,

My questions:
1> Is this the way to enter our details?
2> Am I getting a right link here?
3> How should I go from here?
4> Shall I enter my details in a single textbox with '|' as a separate?

Sorry to say that entering my name into "wallofframe" seeming to be a more difficult task for me

Regards,
Prathima

Hi Jaikiran Pai,

Thanks for your reply, I tried every other combinations, prathima, prathima gaitonde, prathima.gaitonde.... etc its same error for each of them.

Regards,
Prathima

Hi Jeanne,

Thanks for the reply, I am using google chrome. Sorry I dint get your next sentence about PM. The picture in the first screenshot is what I am getting, it stays there for hours, If I press cancel button then, the 2nd screenshot will appear.


With respect,
Prathima

Hi All,

I am unable to add my name here, "OcajpWallOfFame". If I press edit button, it asks for password and username, upon providing the same, its still remains on the same page!!

1> How can I add my name?
2> Is it some other button or link that I should look for?

With Kind regards,
Prathima

Congratulations!!!

Hi Roel,

As ever you are right, I mistook the question and there by answers. I verified the question that I have mentioned in this thread, I was referring to the Exam1 Q51 itself. I was totally wrong in getting it and other 2 questions about which I was mentioning. My apologies to the authors and all java ranchers for misleading.

With respect,
Prathima

Hi All,

I am happy to inform all of you that I cleared 1Z0-803 exam yesterday with 81% result. I would like to share my experience with you, hear.

I have done masters in computer and had 3 yrs of work experience in Java, JSP, EJB, Servelets. As someone said in this forum, I was using those in my work, rather than knowing them, This was the story before 2009, since then, due to some reasons I could not work, Even though I was happy in my life something was missing in my life, my passion for java, dint let me be merely a house wife, and go on according to the flow. I came to know about this certification and wanted to go for it. Thanks to my husband, even though he knew, this certification is just a piece of additional paper in my degree folder, he didn't hold back.

The resources I used are pretty much same as everyone mentioned,

1> Mala Gupta’s book
Arrived at my door on October 17th 2014, Took a month to finish it. By this time I thought I was ready(Even though had failed in mock test) and booked the test, wanted to have it in December but due to unavailability booked them for Jan-9th 2015,

Prior to this book I even forgot how the main method syntax look like, how to write a simple “hello world” program!!. Thanks Mala Gupta, you thought me ABCD of java (again).

2>Esteban Herrera’s book
This book is very good, those who want extra practice with the questions, I would suggest them go for this, kindle edition is available only for 99p, a paper back costs 6.50£. Only things that have to be taken care of is, this book has got old exam topics included, such as shift operator, multi catch block, etc. If you are very sure of the topics which are there on the exam, then can practice only those questions from this book.

3>Hanumanth Deshmukh’s question bank
Purchased it in November 25th, Starter test failed drastically, Thought, I know the topics very well but attepting the questions within time frame has to be fixed. Went for fist test, failed by scoring 34%, point to note is I was using timer for all the tests done so far. This time I woke up, I realised that everything is wrong here, I don’t know the topic very well, I know them superficially.

Went into shock, was thinking to give it up, started to look for help in the internet, at this time I came to know about this wonderful forum, where I got to know about Enthuware, as I already had Deshmukh’s book was not sure to go with Enthuware, this forum helped me a lot in decision making to by Enthuware as well as K&B book.

4>Enthuware exam software
Purchased in 7th December , what should I say about this, my score would still be 36%, without this software. Thanks very much for making this, we need you. Whatever I have scored today, most of it was only because of this software.

After failing in same starter test and first test in Enthuware, I decided to postpone my exam to 13th Feb and got K&B book as well.

5>K&B
Arrived at 31st December, Good book, but one should go through the book only if they know how to write simple java programs, It covers topics exclusively for the exam and a very good book to read after reading Mala Gupta’s book. Especially topics on garbage collection and object creation are very well covered in the book.

Finally I read both of the books twice, Went through review notes of each book 4 times, did each chapter test 4 times, each mock test (1 from Mala’s book and 2 from K&B’s CD) did it twice, wrote 560 programs, starting from “Hello java” to garbage collection, polymorphism, etc.

Enthuware test attempted only once but with different attitude each time, average score mentioned was 75%.

One day before went through all the questions in Deshmukh’s book(Same questions that Enthuware has) , which was extremely helpful in determining answers within a minute, things like if there is only one object created, and all the methods are overridden, in that particular class then no point in looking for which method will get called.

Last but not the least I would like to thank you all the java ranchers who helped me lot in this journey. A heartfelt special thanks to my 2 mentors or guide, without whom I would not even dreamed of achieving this. I would have given this up in November itself. Thank you Roel De Nijs and Sergej Smoljanov. There was no post of mine, which was not answered by either of them. Really grateful for your effort, time, patience and kindness. Roel, your knowledge is unmatchable. Please be with us we need you.

Oracle testing software was bit disappointing tough,
As mentioned in forums I was expecting some demo test, in order to test the software, but nothing of that sort, it gave some instructions about the software and directly start test button was there.

No. of correct answers were hidden in lengthy explanation, like “Which of these two options can make code to print this and this output”. Those questions which had only one correct answers, were not mentioned anything about the no. of correct answers.

In the beginning of the test I was very nervous, hence double checking the code for compile time error, wasted lot of time here, in the end there were so lengthy questions that I had to look up in the 2 separate tabs for the code, and within last 40 minutes covered 35 questions, and lengthy questions were just a guess. My advice for others, don’t do such mistakes.

In the end, I thought the result will be displayed but no, just the message saying you will get an email, follow the link in the mail to get the results. I had the test about 1.30 hr distance from my place, throughout the journey back, couldn’t access the net. Was feeling miserable not to know my results until reaching home!, that too we have to register with oracle!!, all these process took 2.30 hrs to fetch my result.

Lastly I learnt lot of things in this 4 months journey, It, includes dedication, patience, joy, confidence and many more things, apart from java. Thanks to this certification itself.

With Kind regards,
Prathima

Hi Roel,

I fully understand the hardship involved in writing such a great book, I respect the authors effort. I just wanted to bring such mistakes to the authors notice, such that they can incorporate the required changes(if any), and thus, others can be benefited by that. Especially last few days of the preparation is very crucial and such mistakes can really mislead, It is not so much for my own good, I am trying to get it notified such that this book(CD) gets even better and helps its users even better way,

I am not talking about the wordings mistakes or missing parenthesis here, Its the mistake between code and right choice of answers, like one I have already mentioned in this thread, I will post even more (such doubts or wrong once) in few days, such that if its really wrong, authors can note it, and if not I can learn from it.

Thanks for your time, and help

With great respect,
Prathima

Hi all,

I figured out that, there are so many questions that have got wrong answers marked in CD as right once!!! It not only misleads, but totally frustrating.
Is there any way I can report such errors? Author(s) in first few pages of the book have mentioned that, they visit this site oftenly, hence writing it here.

Is there any other site related to this book, where I can post my queries or doubts or errata (especially related to CD)?
Do they really care for our queries? if they do it would be good for other users of this book.

Regards,
Prathima

class Abc { { System.out.println("init1 abc"); } public Abc() { System.out.println("ctr abc"); } { System.out.println("init2 abc"); } static { System.out.println("static init abc"); } } class Def extends Abc { int var; { System.out.println("init1 def " + var); } public Def() { var = 5; System.out.println("ctr def " + var); } static { System.out.println("static init def"); } { System.out.println("init2 def " + var); } } class Abcdef { public static void main(String[] args) { new Def(); } }

And a post of mine would not be complete if it didn't have a pop quiz question So here it is: what will happen if instance variable var is made final? Does it still compile? And if it does, what's the output?

Hi Roel,

I am not perfect, and still trying to climb the ladder, not even on the first step, so sorry for the mistakes made in my last posts, Again thanks to the support given by this site, happy to answer your question,

1>A variable declared final static and initialized there and then is called compile time constants,
2>Such variables are (according to my understanding) constants, whose value cant be changed later, and where ever they are used compiler knows their value for sure.
3>A variable which is final and static and not initialized is not a compile time constant, whose initialization can be postponed until its static block finishes.
4> Variable declared as only final not static are instance variable which are constants, whose assignment can be postponed till constructor finishes.

If we try to use such variables (declared in point 3 & 4) before there initialization, compile time error occurs, hence answer to your question is if var is final in above code, instance initializer blocks cant use it before var getting initialized, but this below code is fine.
final int var; { var=10; System.out.println("init1 def " + var); }
and the value of var will remain 10 in second instance initializer block as well, as it is a final instance variable.

I hope, have answered this without any mistakes,

With great respect,
Prathima

Hi Roel,

Thanks for the reply. As Sergej Smoljanov, has drawn the picture very neatly I presume he has done using it some kind of a software, I tried it in power point, dint work, hence wanted to know and learn the technique of drawing it neatly. Hand drawing and representation of object, heap, stack representation, I came to know during this journey, all thanks to K&B book.


With great respect,
Prathima

Hi All,

My understanding about exceptions was, When an exception is thrown from try block, its an object of some type which will then fit into catch block's reference variable, but I am not sure whether the compiler checks the type of the object i.e thrown or the references? Till now I learnt that objects are created at the run time so, there is no way that compiler knows about them, but still when reference is parent, and object is child it knows the relation, and it allows the casting accordingly! Similarly Exceptions,

My this code is fine

package com.oracle.certification.exceptionInGenral; import java.io.IOException; public class ExceptionIO { public static void main(String args[]) throws IOException { try{ throw new IOException(); } catch(Exception e) { throw e; } } }
But, this code wont compile

package com.oracle.certification.exceptionInGenral; import java.io.IOException; public class ExceptionRevisedIO { public static void main(String args[]) throws IOException { Exception e=new IOException(); throw e; } }

I may sound silly, but really stuck or confused to know, whether the object type that we should declare in throws clause or the reference type?

With kind regards,
Prathima