Paul Anilprem

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While you are waiting for Scott's response, here are some details that you might find helpful

1. Is the OCA Java SE 8 exam still valid, if valid then how long?


Yes, it is still valid. No one knows for sure, but based on what Oracle has done in the past, this exam will be valid for at least another couple of years.

2. Is there any change for the OCA Java SE 8 exam structure.


No, there is no change in the OCA Java SE 8 exam structure. It is still the same.

3. After the completion of OCA Java SE 8 what should be the next steps?


You could go for the OCP 8 (1Z0-809) exam or the OCP 11 (1Z0-816) exam.

R.J. Arzki wrote:

Paul Anilprem wrote:

Evandro Luis Machado wrote:I just can't understand Oracle's PDF that says that an OCA 8  can do directly  Java SE 11 II (1Z0-816)
Page 4
https://www.oracle.com/a/ocom/docs/dc/ou-5021-java-se11-faq-4.pdf?intcmp=WWOUCERTBLOGECIHA032019

That was my initial plan, is there something i'm missing ?


You are right. I was not sure about whether one could take 816 after 808. But Oracle has confirmed it. You can directly go for 816 if you have cleared 808. No need to take 809.



Hi Paul,

Any idea by when will Enthuware have mock exams for 1ZO-816 ready? I have OCA8 and I wanted to go for OCP8 this year. But reading Oracle's pdf, I realized that I only need to pass 1ZO-816 exam to get the OCP Java 11 certification. However I am worried that there is (and won't be by the end of the year) not enough preparation material for OCP11. My other option would be to go for OCP8 (because there are tons of materials on this topic including your nice mock-exams) and later (if ever) I should do the OCP11 upgrade.

Thanks and keep up the good work.



We are working on it but we do not have a release date yet. Could be a couple of months or more but definitely before the end of the year We are unable to give any date because we do not compromise on quality in the need to meet some deadline. Developing qood questions with accurate explanations is hard and we give our authors as much time as they need.


Taking OCP 8 and then OCP 11 will cost you twice the money. I think opening up of the OCP11 exam for OCA 8 cert holders is a great opportunity to acquire the latest cert at the cost of only one exam.  So, if you can wait a couple of months for the study material, take OCP 11 then.

Or, take a little bit of risk, study new topics on your own and apear for OCP 11. Even if you fail, you will know what you are missing. You will be able to pass in the second attempt. Will cost you the same as OCP 8 + OCP 11. I don't see any downside either way

Jomu Visser wrote:Hi everyone! This is my first time posting here, so please go easy on me!

I am a new Java coder, teaching myself, and started really studying seriously in January doing the University of Helsinki MOOC.  After getting into it a bit, I had made it my goal to pass the OCA exam in August, 2019. I have been working through Jeanne and Scott's OCA exam prep book, and so far, it seems to be going ok.  However, I have just read that the new, Java 11 exam is out there, which is quite tough. I know, I know, I need to first deal with OCAJP, which I still plan to do, but.....let's say that I manage to pass the OCA (OCP next year). Will employers still view it as an asset or will it be old news? If so, how "old news" will it be, in your opinions?

Don't get me wrong-I still plan to do both exams as this OCA book is really helping solidify in my mind the smaller details that make up Java, and it certainly will not HURT me to do these exams.    Just curious as to your opinions of the value of having OCA these days.

Thanks in advance!  


OCAJP/OCAPJP 8 will not be "old" for another couple of years at least.  Java 8 exams already include some of the most important topics (streams and lambda) so I would not worry too much about it going obsolete anytime soon. It will still be as valuable as it was.

I don't think the new exams (815 and 816) are any more tough that the older (808 and 809) exams (Read about our 1Z0-815 experience ) but the absence of books and mock exams certainly make them look like so. This will not be a problem in a couple of months time. However, the bigger issue is the focus of the new exams. The new exams focus quite a bit on modularization. But modularization is not yet a clear winner in the industry, IMHO. So, I don't think you would be losing out much by not going for the new exams.


(Added link to our 1Z0-815 experience.)
Congratulations, Sebastian!

Adrian Grabowski wrote:

Paul Anilprem wrote:
You are right. I was not sure about whether one could take 816 after 808. But Oracle has confirmed it. You can directly go for 816 if you have cleared 808. No need to take 809.



That's really great as it looks that the new OCA exam is much harder than previous ones


1. There is no OCA exam any more for Java 11. But you can think of the OCPJD part 1 (1z0-815) to be in the same position as the old 808 exam (minus the OCA cert).
2. I wouldn't call it much harder. Just different. Here is what we think of it: https://enthuware.com/resources/oracle-java-programmer-certification-resources/ocp-java-11-1z0-815-exam-experience-feedback

Evandro Luis Machado wrote:I just can't understand Oracle's PDF that says that an OCA 8  can do directly  Java SE 11 II (1Z0-816)
Page 4
https://www.oracle.com/a/ocom/docs/dc/ou-5021-java-se11-faq-4.pdf?intcmp=WWOUCERTBLOGECIHA032019

That was my initial plan, is there something i'm missing ?


You are right. I was not sure about whether one could take 816 after 808. But Oracle has confirmed it. You can directly go for 816 if you have cleared 808. No need to take 809.

Jesus Angeles wrote:Hi

I already have the whizlab set.

Any other that worked for you?


Since no one has replied, may I suggest you to try Enthuware?

Mikalai Zaikin wrote:

Paul Anilprem wrote:I hope it is not a mistake in their FAQ because there was no OCA 6.



LOL, I also thought there was no OCA 6, but in fact it was:

Oracle Certified Associate, Java SE 5/SE 6 1Z0-850 Java SE 5 and 6, Certified Associate

(discontinued a year ago, btw)



Ah...right!
BTW, a member on OCP Java 11 Certification Whatsapp Group received a confirmation email from Oracle saying that it is indeed a valid path. If you have an OCA 6, 7, or 8 certification, you can go for the OCP 11 Part II i.e. 1Z0-816 exam.


Dear ----,

Thank you for your patience.

Our records indicate that you have earned your Oracle Certified Associate, Java SE 8 Programmer credential with the Testing Id ****.

Kindly note that candidates who hold the OCA Java SE 8 can upgrade to OCP, Java SE 11 Developer credential by passing the exam 1Z0-816. This information will be updated on our website (https://education.oracle.com/oracle-certification-exams-list) soon.

We hope this information helps.

Sincerely,
OCP Team


Dmitrii Valov wrote:Hi All!

Am I the first one here who passed this exam?
This exam was announced about 2 weeks ago.

I think this exam was not a very difficult for me.
But as I learned it much harder than 1Z0-808.

There were added several new themes from Java 8+
- modules
- var/type inference
- generic
- generic-inheritance

The preparation took about 2 months.
I used "OCA: Oracle Certified Associate Java SE 8 Programmer I Study Guide: Exam 1Z0-808" book written by by Jeanne Boyarsky  and Scott Selikoff
+ OCAJP-1z0-808 test from enthuware.com site.


Good luck to everyone !

Regards,
DV
Russia Omsk


Congratulations on passing this new exam, Dmitrii! and thanks for sharing your experience.
I am curious to know if you got any question that required knowledge of the Date/Time classes?
3 weeks ago

SwapanB Biswas wrote:Hello,
Today I passed OCPJP exam with 86%. I passed OCAJP with 90% in October,2018. OCPJP is much tougher than OCAJP. There are many new topics like functional programming, stream, NIO2.  As I don't have much working knowledge with Java 8, therefore it took longer time for preparation. I have followed OCP study guide by Jeanne Boyarsky and Scott SelikoffMy. This is a great book for learning and preparing. After going through Jeanne's book, I have completed all the chapter tests and mock test given the book. I have given all the Enthuware mock test. I repeated some tests. I have reviewed all the questions after each mock test, updated my note. Then reviewed my note.

Here is Enthuware score:

FT - 88
T1 - 56
T2 - 59
T3 - 60
T1 - 88(2nd time)
T4 - 64
T2 - 77(2nd time)
T5 - 69
Last Day Test - 76

Real exam question was not much easier than mock test. Rather it was much closer to mock test. Got bunch of stream questions.
Thanks Jeanne Boyarsky and Scott SelikoffMy for great book.
Thanks Enthuware for great product.


Congratulations, Swapan!
3 weeks ago

MichaƂ Szymanowski wrote:

Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:

Ahmed Ibrahim wrote:also for this point i would ask what's the reason that there is no associate level for Java 11 anymore ? , Is the associate certification not valuable in a resume when applying for a junior job ?


Oracle addresses this in their Java 11 cert FAQ

I found interesting table in this pdf:

https://imgur.com/afuORSZ

"I am Java SE 8/7/6 OCA" -> "1Z0-816"

It seems that people with OCA can earn OCP 11 by taking only one exam. Could you confirm that Jeanne?



Yes, this path is very useful to candidates who have spent time and money getting the OCA 7/8. They can straight away go for the OCP 11 i.e. 1z0-816 exam. I hope it is not a mistake in their FAQ because there was no OCA 6.


I am Java SE 8/7/6 OCA Java SE: Programming II   -  Java 11: New Features (free video)  - 1Z0-816

Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:I think it is OCP. Because it is a professional level cert and that's at the beginning of the name. OCP stands for Oracle Certified Professional. The rest is just an English name.

I've been using OCP 11 part 1 and OCP 11 part 2.


Yes, the OCP part is fine but several non-Java certs also exist under OCP, such as OCP Mysql 5.6 developer certification.
So, OCP 11 may be too ambiguous.
The full name of the new Java 11 certification is Oracle Certified Professional: Java SE 11 Developer. So, they have now moved from Java Programmer to Java Developer. I am wondering what would good acronyms to refer to both the parts this certification - OCPJD 11 1/2? OCPJ11D-1/2? OCPJD-1/2?

Any thoughts?