Falana Dhimkana

Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:

Yes both are responsible but for you only BJP is responsible.

No, I think they are both responsible for horrible deeds! BJP is no better or worse than Congress. Where did I say congress is great?

Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:

I am not one of those who make selective criticism. I have mentioned in previous posts(To Remo) that selective criticism is wrong. You havent criticized Congress.
Why ? It was because they killed sikhs and not muslims,right? Please dont confuse others.

I am not going to respond if you continue to confuse others.
[ May 19, 2004: Message edited by: Pradeep Bhat ]

All I am trying to say is that Congress killed Sikhs and BJP killed Muslims. Does that BJP or Congress any better than each other? They are both responsible for killings. How is this trying to confuse others?

I fail to understand how anyone can possibly support a political outfit responsible for killing innocent human beings?

Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:


Where did I justify? Dont jump to wrong conlusion and confuse others. Read my posts carefully.

This is what you wrote:

Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:


There was very little communal viloence in India during NDA rule. Gujarat was bad so was sikh riots during Coingress rule.

For congress , secularism means minority votes.

If this is is not a justification what is it? Aren't you saying that Gujarat killings are excusable because Sikh massacre under Congress rule was much worst. If that isn't the point of your statement what is the comparison supposed to mean? Are you willing to condemn Gujarat govt violence regardless of what the previous govt did? Are you willing to hold BJP responsible as much as you hold Congress responsible?

Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:


There was very little communal viloence in India during NDA rule. Gujarat was bad so was sikh riots during Coingress rule.

For congress , secularism means minority votes.

This is really unbelievable! You are using the inhuman acts of a previous govt to justify Gujarat? Do two wrongs ever make a right? Let's see ... what u r saying is that since Congress govt slaughtered thousands of Sikhs it is perfectly alright for the BJP govt to kill Muslims? This is one of the most shameless things I have ever heard

Also, there is nothing called "Sikh riots". It was a massacre of the Sikhs sponsored by the then Indian govt.
[ May 17, 2004: Message edited by: Falana Dhimkana ]

Originally posted by Matt Cao:
Hi Falana,
Nope. I am in US and yes my partner is in Taiwan and US. Billy T and a few folks know the magnitude of my partner presence in the technology world.
Regards,
MCao

That was exactly my point! You assumed that Adithya is in India. Also you made a general statement "you indians". Such language is considered impolite. By the same logic, the rest of us can assume and say "you Taiwanese"

Originally posted by Matt Cao:
Hi,
I honestly do not understand why you Indian people have so much craps procedure for the interview process. Anyway, it is nothing more than you will solve a case scenario technically.
Regards,
MCao

Matt,
Next time you ask a question here we will assume that there is a problem in Taiwan.
Still better we will all assume that any problem you face means that Taiwan has crappy procedures.

Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:


They were not born in India. A country like India which was ruled by foreign countries should have laws to ban PFO to hold top posts.
:roll:
[ April 20, 2004: Message edited by: Pradeep Bhat ]

The premiere of British Columbia was born in some village in Punjab. Current California governor was born in Austria. So by this logic are you ok with Sonia becoming the CM of UP?
Once again what's more important where you were born or what you are capable of doing? BTW, I am not saying Sonia is capable of doing anything for the country.

Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:

Wrong comparison! Why this comparison it with Indian migrating to other countries.?
Compare it with Indian becoming PM or President of some other country.

If I am not mistaken, ex-president of Fiji, some Jagannath, was of Indian origin. What do you have to say about that? And some Indian immigrant did become the premiere of British Columbia province of Canada. What about that? Would you be ok if Sonia became CM of UP or would you like to say that that Indian immigrant (can't remember the darn name) should have never been made the premiere of BC, Canada?
What's more important? The ethnicity of an individual or what he/she offers to the country? Although I have my doubts as to what she or any Indian politicians (including current PM) can offer.

Originally posted by Ranga Sreenivasan:

Please don't misquote and provide a religious hue to this sad event...
The truth is: thousands of Sikhs were murdered by the ruling Congress Party leaders and police
It all happened due to the whims of one powerful political leader (not a religious one)
I sure don't know the exact motivation behind these attacks...Why these riots took place in the first place?
Separate homeland? More freedom?

No, I am not providing a religious hue. In fact, that was the point I was trying to make. You can not make sweeping allegations. Inspite of the fact that an overwhelming majority of Hindus didn't condemn the killings of Sikhs, you can not paint all Hindus with the same brush! We don't blame all the Germans for Genocide, do we?

Originally posted by Paul McKenna:

Did you look at the photos? KIDS!!! 10 years, 12 years old burning these corpses. If this is what children are taught, I'm not sure what kind of a future they will have.

Paul,
By your logic, Hindus must be worst kind of savages because in Nov 1984, govt sponsored murderers burnt alive thousands of Sikhs in the streets of New Delhi. Are you willing to say that a large majority of Hindus are savages?
And yes there were teenagers among the rioters in New Delhi.

Originally posted by Jeroen Wenting:
It's hardly outsourcing when an Indian company contracts the Indian subsidiary of IBM for the work...
Bharti is an INDIAN telco...

So, it isn't outsourcing if it isn't offshoring. Well, we are all enlightened now :roll:

Originally posted by Paul McKenna:

Nobody is denying that there are other religious terrorists groups as well. But the fact remains that only one religion seems to be exporting violence. If there are Hindu terrorists (for an example) then they conduct their acts within India because they want Hindu domination within India.. if there are Christian terrorists (again for an example) they commit their acts within Ireland and England because they want Christian domination there. However Islamic terrorists seem to be exporting their violence out of the middle east to other parts of the world..

Isn't that some logic! Since Hindu terrorists are not exporting their terror their acts must be less evil! And BTW, why is there an "If" when it comes to Hindu terrorist? If there are Hindu terrorist? You won't deny other terrorist groups but you will think twice before using labels when it comes to Hindus/Christians. Isn't that right?
[ March 17, 2004: Message edited by: Falana Dhimkana ]

Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Actually he tried to underplay criticizing his father. Those are two very different things.

Correct, but he also tried to underplay the holocaust by saying that a lot of people were killed during WWII and some of them were Jews. Now that's really an understatement/misstatement. Here's the text of what he said
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/2/5/110921.shtml

Among other things Gibson discussed in his interview with Noonan, he told her that "he loved his father," according to the Times. Noonan persisted, telling Gibson: "You're going to have to go on record. The Holocaust happened, right?"
Gibson made clear his position: "I have friends and parents of friends who have numbers on their arms. The guy who taught me Spanish was a Holocaust survivor. He worked in a concentration camp in France. Yes, of course. Atrocities happened.
"War is horrible. The Second World War killed tens of millions of people. Some of them were Jews in concentration camps. Many people lost their lives. In the Ukraine several million starved to death between 1932 and 1933. During the last century 20 million people died in the Soviet Union."

I haven't seen the movie so I can't comment on that. But I have read interviews of Mel's father. Now this guy, Huton Gibson, I must say is a piece of work. He has the audacity to say that the holocaust never really happened. Jews just took off for Sydney, LA etc. Mel, also has tried to tried to underplay the holocaust. When asked about holocaust in an interview he said that a lot of people were wrongly killed in WWII and some of them were Jews The movie may or may not have any anti-semetic intentions but I think the Gibson's are really out of touch with reality. Somebody really needs to show them the mass graves

Originally posted by Tim Holloway:

I won't discount culture. There's enough difference between New York and Florida, though I won't say that either is inherently superior. I also think that some "culture" is more of a mindset and perceptions of it may be out of date.

Tim,
I can understand differences in accent and work culture can impact business but what does Deepa's(one of the characters in the story) arranged marriage have anything to do with the business? Also, white-collar job loss worries in US are understandable but trying to pit workers from different parts of world against each other is simply deplorable.

Originally posted by Tim Holloway:
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_09/b3872003_mz001.htm
I don't entirely agree with it, since it implies the usual assumption that only Western Countries can innovate, but FWIW.

Tim,
Not only do I disagree with it I think this is a really cheap shot! Firstly the article gets into total BS about cultural differences. Then tone almost says that programming jobs are elite and rightfully belong in the west. This is the worst write-up I have ever seen on outsourcing! I expected better from BW but *sigh*